Hello and welcome to the Red Box Politics Podcast on the Times I'm Matt

Julie that's it then Parliament has packed up for five weeks but we are still here trying to make sense of it all and

we've got some cracking episodes lined up over the next few weeks to be sure to subscribe

on Apple Spotify or wherever you listen so that you don't miss a single one.

And we've got a cracking episode for you today, David Erronovich on the rise of the Lib Dems,

Rachel Sylvester on the demise of John Burko.

But first, Jason Stein, Stein until the weekend was a special

advisor to Amber Rudd on what her resignation means for the Toy Party.

Just four years ago Amber Rudd Joe Swinson and Mark

Francois served as ministers in the same government.

So while some may dismiss as meaningless, the sacking of 21

moderates and the resignation of my boss, Amber Red,

it marks the end of a successful era of compromised politics in the Conservative Party

and is the final nail in the coffin of David Cameron's party reforms.

So Jason, the Red Box Box cast is increasingly becoming sort of safe space for former spans

who have escaped from this government over a period of weeks.

Before we get on to what this means more broadly for the Tory party let's talk about what happened with your bosses resignation.

When did you know that she was going to resign?

Early enough in the week when she started really considering it and obviously when these discussions first take place

in all honestly the first thing you do is you challenge and you say is this really what you want to do

but then when your boss makes the decision

really as a special advisor you're sort of duty bound to back them to work as hard as you

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