Hello,

I guess today is the one and only Jake Meeder,

who is the editor-in-chief of Muir Orthodoxy

and the author of multiple books.

His writing has appeared in many different places

like The Atlantic, Common common wheel first things the dispatch

comment Christianity today and elsewhere Jake lives with his family his wife and

four kids in Lincoln Nebraska our conversation is wide-ranging. Okay, this is one of those really free-flowing

conversations. I invited Jake to come on and he's kind of a renaissance nightmare, he like just knows lots of stuff

about lots of different things and so I told him ahead of time I said, hey, I just knows lots of stuff about lots of different things.

And so I told him ahead of time, I said, hey, I just want to come on and have a conversation.

Let's just see where the conversation goes.

And it goes in many different directions.

And I learned a ton.

So we talk about culture history politics technology how all those

relate and many other things and I found Jake to be both delightful and

thoughtful especially when it comes to his like analysis of culture and technology. So really

excited about the conversation please welcome to the show the one or only Jake

here. All right. Jekmeeter, welcome to theology and Ra. How are you doing this morning?

I'm doing well.

You look very, you look very colorful. What did you say that was that you're wearing?

It's called it Deschiki. It's a shirt that it originated in Western Africa and then in the years after African country started moving into

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