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Culture Gabfest - So Long, and Thanks for All the Granola Edition

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🗓️ 1 July 2026

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

A eulogistic weepfest? A “valediction forbidding mourning”? A conscious unthroupling? All of the above?


Believe it or not, the time has come for Steve, Dana, and Julia to convene the Culture Gabfest panel for the very last time. 


Before saying goodbye, they look back at the very first piece of culture they ever gabbed about on their inaugural episode in February 2008: the film Juno. Does the indie darling written by Diablo Cody, directed by Jason Reitman, and starring Elliot Page as a sardonic, pregnant teenager hold up after 18 years? And, what does rewatching it in 2026 reveal about how culture has changed? They discuss.


Next, the panel welcomes on the grand poobah of SFOPs June Thomas to counsel them through the inevitable change in one’s cultural habits that comes after a big life transition. They get into why June stopped watching TV and the truly wild mix of things in her YouTube algorithm.

 

Finally, we hear from you our dear, dear listeners. Steve, Dana, and Julia respond to some of your many beautiful emails and voice memos.  


In our bonus episode for Slate Plus subscribers, past Gabfest producers spill the beans on what it was like to make this show over the years.


And, as always, thank you so much for being a listener.



Endorsements


Dana: The forthcoming book about translating ancient texts by beloved past Gabfest guest Emily Wilson, Crossing the Wine-Dark Sea: Journeys Through Ancient Literature.


June: The podcast Drafting the Past hosted by Kate Carpenter about the craft of writing history.


Julia: Manhattan Beach's indie bookstore Pages and On the Calculation of Volume (Book 1) by Solvej Balle (definitely the first 30 pages and maybe the whole five book series).


Steve: In addition to the music of Red Garland, I Capture the Castle by Dodie Smith, and the poem The Writerby Richard Wilbur, Sparrowbush Bakery, a tiny, rustic bakery in Livingston, New York that is only open Fridays and Saturdays and serves the best bread made from fresh stoneground flour from locally grown grains you’ll ever taste.



Where in the World to Find the Culture Gabfest


Dana: Writing film reviews on Slate.com and kicking around a book idea that is still in the early stages. You can find updates and commentary on Bluesky


Steve: In the wind, to the sands... and also working on a new book about, among many other things, the 1980s.


Julia: Editing L.A. Material and soon appearing weekly on L.A. Material's about-to-launch podcast L.A. World. Also, on Twitter/X, Instagram, and Bluesky.


June: At her newsletter Where Are All the Emails?


For the time being, listeners can also still reach the panel by emailing culturefest@slate.com. And to keep tabs on the Gabfesters, subscribe to their brand-new newsletter, the Culture Gabletter, to receive occasional updates, endorsements and more. 



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Podcast production by the immensely talented Benjamin Frisch. Production assistance by the brilliant Daniel Hirsch.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:13.5

I'm Stephen McHaff and this is the Slate Culture Gapfest.

0:16.3

So long and thanks for all the Granola edition.

0:19.9

It's Wednesday, July 1st, 20206 on today's show. Who are we kidding? It's not a show. This isn't a show. Dana, this isn't a show. What is it? It's the fond, bittersweet. I don't know. I'm not allowed to use the word bittersweet anymore. It's a eulogistic weep fest, right? It's a valediction forbidding morning, to quote John Dunn. Lovely. I love it. That's beautiful. I need you. Steve, you were going to throw to us for titles, and then you skipped it. All right, well, let's do that. All right, around the horn, Dana, if you had to, it sounds like Julia might have one. I just came up with it. A valediction forbidding morning. I can't do better than John Dunn.

0:55.7

Okay, Brill. And Julia, what do you have?

0:58.5

I thought we could borrow so long, farewell, Al-Vita Zena, Jha, for yeah and yeah, and yeah, and yeah.

1:05.8

Oh, I like that. Okay, I came up with two, the, like, the like the kind of arch heavily defended sarcastic juno

1:15.0

like steve came up with the conscious unthrupling and the the true real gooey highly vulnerable

1:25.3

steve uh was i feel fucked up and broken edition that's the indie rocker steve it gooey, highly vulnerable Steve was I Feel Fucked Up and Broken Edition.

1:29.6

That's the indie rocker Steve edition.

1:33.4

Anyway, we are doing something different and a little clever for this show.

1:39.3

We rewatched the movie that we discussed, lo those many years ago ago on episode number one, the premiere episode

1:46.0

of the Maiden Voyage of the Culture Gab Fest back in 2008. I believe it was we watched the movie

1:52.4

Juno. The quirky indie hit about a 16-year-old girl who gets pregnant decides to carry the

1:59.0

creature inside her to term and then give it up for adoption.

2:02.9

It starred Elliot Page in the title role as well as Michael Sarah, J.K. Simmons, Alison Janney, Jason Babeman, Jennifer Gardner, is an incredible cast.

2:11.5

And then I think, without question, the oldest and closest friend of our program, June Thomas, joins us from Edinburgh.

2:19.3

One last time to discuss changing cultural habits, mores, ethos, over the 18 years of the show, but also looking forward into the future, what might or might not come next.

2:33.6

And finally, we will

2:34.8

dip into, though we wish we could plunge, immerse ourselves and linger there forever, but

2:39.4

we'll dip into our mailbag. We got so many incredibly moving testimonials to what this show

2:45.5

has meant to its listeners who took the time to write in. And we wanted to engage in a kind of dialogue with some of those

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