Culture Gabfest - Mother Troubles Edition
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🗓️ 22 April 2026
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Summary
Steve, Dana, and Julia convene once more for a rousing Gabfest. First up, it’s Mother Mary. David Lowery’s strange psychodrama centers on a pop star, played by Anne Hathaway, reuniting with her estranged friend and costume designer, played by Michaela Coel, and the menacing piece of red chiffon that haunts them both.
Next, they turn to another pair of mothers in Margo’s Got Money Troubles. The new series stars Elle Fanning as a new single mom— and Michelle Pfeiffer as her mom— who turns to OnlyFans to make ends meet.
Finally they welcome back Gabfest favorite Caity Weaver to dish on her epic quest to find the best free restaurant bread in America— as chronicled in her hilarious and insightful piece in The Atlantic.
In an exclusive bonus episode for Slate Plus subscribers, Julia shares a behind-the-scenes peek into the founding of her new local media startup L.A. Material.
Endorsements
Dana: The completely unscripted shows of The Improvised Shakespeare Company—on tour now.
Caity: The live album Sam Cooke at the Copa, especially the song "The Best Things in Life Are Free"—the best bread certainly is.
Julia: The sitcom The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins which really hits its stride after a few episodes.
Steve: The novel The Go-Between by L.P. Hartley as well as Paul Buchanan, of the band The Blue Nile, covering David Bowie’s "Ashes to Ashes."
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Stephen McCaffin. This is the Slate Culture Gab Fest, Mother Troubles edition. It's Wednesday, April 22nd, 2006. On today's show, Mother Mary is the new feature from writer-director David Lowry. |
| 0:22.7 | It's a two-hander starring Anne Hathaway as a mega-famous pop diva and Michaela Cole as her |
| 0:28.1 | former friend and collaborator whom she now approaches to design her address by way of hopefully |
| 0:34.0 | a creative and spiritual renewal. It takes place mostly in a barn. And then L. Fanning |
| 0:39.3 | stars in Margo's Got Money Troubles in which she plays a single mother who turns to only fans to |
| 0:44.7 | support her new baby. It also stars Michelle Pfeiffer as her mother and Nick Offerman is her professional |
| 0:49.8 | wrestling dad. I should say that's on Apple TV. And finally, the estimable Katie Weaver, I hope |
| 0:56.2 | she's a friend of the program, we think she is, of the Atlantic returns with her hotly anticipated, |
| 1:01.5 | one might say, aromatic, yeasty, warm piece about which restaurant in America has the best |
| 1:08.6 | free bread? First, joining me today is Julia Turner from Los Angeles. Founder. Is |
| 1:15.0 | Editor-in-Chief the correct title here? |
| 1:16.8 | Yeah. Let's spend a lot of time on my honor effects. I think that's good audio. |
| 1:21.1 | Of LA Material. Brief description of LA Material, please. |
| 1:26.0 | LA Material is a brand new media outlet for Los Angeles. It's smart and it's fun and you should subscribe. Yeah, it's got this great puckish energy. It's terrific. Every time I read it, I'm glad I'm reading it even though I am not an Angelino. So, congrats. And of course, Dana Stevens is the film critic for Slate. Hey, Dana. |
| 1:47.6 | Hey, hey. Interesting topics. Let's begin, shall we? |
| 2:01.7 | Oh, I cannot wait to talk about David Lowry. What a curious filmmaker he is shaping up to be. Consider the slate of his films. Dana, you can help me out here. Pete's Dragon for Disney, I believe. Old Man in the Gun, |
| 2:06.3 | based on a New Yorker story written by my friend David Grant. It was also Robert Redford's last movie and the trippy, Middle Englishly, the Green Knight, which I think we talked about on |
| 2:11.0 | the show based on Sergoyan and the Green Night. So how about Anne Hathaway is a kind of Taylor Swift |
| 2:16.2 | Lady Gaga-type figure, super famous for her songs, her megatores, but also very much her look, which helped create her as a pop sort of world-conquering pop diva. |
| 2:27.6 | These were designed in her early part of a stage of her career by her dear friend and collaborator, here played by Michaela Cole, who when the movie opens, |
| 2:35.8 | she, Anne Hathaway, has ditched along the way to this pop deification. She is now suffering |
| 2:40.9 | from a crisis of confidence that may or may not have otherworldly dimensions or origins, and |
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