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Culture Gabfest - Lash, Pre-Lash, and Parasocial Relations

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🗓️ 15 September 2021

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

This week, Steve and Dana are joined by author and co-host of Slate’s Working podcast, Isaac Butler. First, the panel discusses how Paul Schrader’s most recent film, The Card Counter, replaces gambling and addiction with guilt and accountability. Next, the panel discusses the star-studded true crime satirical comedy, Only Murders in the Building. Finally, the panel is joined by Slate senior writer and ICYMI podcast host Madison Malone Kircher to discuss John Mulaney and parasocial relationships.

In Slate Plus, the panel divulges more of their personal parasocial relationships.

Email us at culturefest@slate.com.

Endorsements

Dana: Nora Ephron’s great essay in The New Yorker “Moving On, A Love Story,” in which she struggles to move on from her apartment in the historical Apthorp building in the Upper West Side.

Isaac: First, Scorcese’s 1982 film The King of Comedy—the ultimate parasocial relationship film. Second, the app Relisten, which allows you to stream live-music recordings from the vast number of internet archives.

Steve: The great writer Saul Bellow’s 1956 novel, Seize the Day. Also: the 1984 collection of his short stories, Him with His Foot in His Mouth and Other Stories.

Podcast production by Cameron Drews. Production assistance by Nadira Goffe.

Outro music is "Self Made Woman" by Katharine Appleton

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0:00.0

I'm Stephen Meckhaff, and this is the Slate Culture Gap Fest, Lash, Pre-Lash, and Parasocial Relations

0:15.6

edition. It's Wednesday, September 15th, 2021 on today's show., writer-director, Paul Schrader returns with

0:22.3

The Card Counter, an existential noir about the traumatic afterlife of America's Forever Wars.

0:28.5

It stars Oscar Isaac and Tiffany Haddish. And then Hulu has a little charmer out now. It's called

0:33.6

Only Murders in the Building. It's about three true crime obsessives who team up to investigate a mysterious suicide in their

0:39.3

venerable Upper West Side apartment building.

0:41.7

It stars Martin Short, Steve Martin, and Selena Gomez.

0:45.7

And finally, we will discuss something called parisocial relationships with Madison Malone

0:50.8

Kircher of the ICYMI podcast, of course, of Slate Magazine.

0:56.0

Joining me today is Isaac Butler. Isaac, you are the author of a forthcoming book,

1:02.0

The Method, How the 20th Century Learned to Act. Give me the Pub Date again.

1:06.1

February 1st, 2022. And you'll be on the show in the immediate aftermath of that, you promise, to discuss it?

1:11.4

Yes, I promise. All right. I'm very psyched. It is an incredibly cool subject to be writing about,

1:16.4

and speaking of which Dana Stevens has a, I'm going to call it, Dana. I, knowing you and

1:21.8

remembering what you've said about it over the years, this is kind of a book-length essay disguised as a biography

1:30.2

of Buster Keaton, yeah, or nay. Yeah, the thumbnail sketch I've been giving, Steve, and I'm not

1:35.8

good at thumbnail sketches, I should warn you, is that this book is a cultural history of Buster

1:39.8

Keaton's lifespan. So it's not a biography, but it's a sort of way of looking at his lifespan, 1895 to

1:45.5

1966 and all the changes that happened in American culture during that time through things

1:50.1

that happened in his life.

1:51.2

Brilliant.

1:51.7

And the title is...

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