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Culture Gabfest: Knives Out Is Back with a New Hot Priest Edition

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🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s show, Julia and Steve are joined by guest host Jamelle Bouie to crack mysteries corporeal and divine in Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery. The latest entrant in Rian Johnson’s whodunnit franchise sees Daniel Craig return as detective Benoit Blanc to team up with an earnest—and earnestly handsome—priest played by Josh O’Connor. Next, they take on the hefty new Ken Burns documentary series The American Revolution, a sprawling, complicated, fife music-scored examination of this nation’s founding.  Finally, are we experiencing a Great Stupidening? In a conversation about New York Magazine’s “Stupid Issue” and The Atlantic piece ‘A Recipe for Idiocracy,’ our smarty pants contemplate American idiocy.  In an exclusive Slate Plus bonus episode, the gang (with Dana!) recap Pluribus episode 6 “HDP.” Don’t forget: we want your cultural queries! We’re gathering your most pressing questions for our annual call-in show. If you’ve got a burning one, email us at [email protected] or give us a call and leave a message at: 347-201-2397. Endorsements: Jamelle: The sequels of the early '90s martial arts B-movie Best of the Best, specifically Best of the Best II and Best of the Best 3: No Turning Back. Steve: The Wong Kar Wai film In The Mood for Love.  Julia:  Joyride the new memoir by Susan Orlean. ----- Email us your thoughts at [email protected].  Podcast production by Benjamin Frisch. Production assistance by Daniel Hirsch. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Julia Turner, and this is the Slate Culture Gab Fest.

0:13.5

Knives Out is back with a new hot priest edition.

0:17.0

It's Wednesday, December 3rd, 2025, and on today's show, we're discussing Wake Up Dead Man, a Knives Out mystery, Ryan Johnson's latest Benoit Blank Joint.

0:27.3

The film is a Gothic who done it that trades the mansions of the previous installments for a church and stars Josh O'Connor as a young priest in a jam.

0:35.2

Then, the American Revolution, the sprawling new Ken Burns documentary

0:39.4

that tackles the founding of this country and poses questions large and small about why the

0:44.0

revolution happened and how profoundly it influenced all that followed. And finally, we'll take a look

0:49.3

at a New York magazine package that argues everything is getting stupider and a few provocative

0:54.1

pieces about the

0:55.2

crisis in American education. Steve McAff is here. Hello, Steve. Hey, Julia. Excited to discuss.

1:01.2

These are great topics. And it's always great to have Jamel on. Yeah, you're spoiling my next big reveal,

1:07.1

which is that Dana is out today. And in her stead, we have Jamel Vooey. Hi, Jamel.

1:12.6

Hello, hello. No worries about that reveal being spoiled. No problem. It was really a micro-spoiler,

1:18.7

so I don't know that people were tuning in for the suspense of that moment. But if you were,

1:24.3

apologies all around. Yeah, a third of our audience, poof, gone before we've experienced.

1:30.9

Let us begin with Wake Up Dead Man.

1:34.5

This third Benoit Blank Mystery features something unusual in a Hollywood film, I think.

1:40.3

A priest who is the hero and whose faith we are meant to take seriously.

1:45.1

The priest is played by Josh O'Connor, assigned to show up and help out at the upstate New York Church of Josh Brolin's fearsome Monsignor Jefferson Wicks.

1:53.7

He's a fire and brimstone guy with a maniacal glint in his eye.

1:59.0

Soon enough, Wicks ends up dead,

2:02.5

and all the cranks in the congregation,

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