Hey listeners, Dana Stevens here. This week we are taking a break from our usual programming

to bring you a really great episode from another Slate podcast, Working. If you haven't

listened to Working yet, it's a podcast that's hosted by three very close friends of the

Slate Culture Gab Fest and frequent guests on our show, June Thomas, Isaac Butler, and

Karen Hahn. Each episode of Working features an interview with a guest who works in a creative

field. In the episode you'll hear today, June Thomas interviews Taffy Brodyser-Akner.

The author of the novel, Fleishman is in trouble, which was recently adapted into a TV

show for Hulu. We actually discussed Fleishman is in trouble on the Culture Gab Fest back

in November. If you want to listen to that episode, the title is, she said, he said. In June's

interview, Taffy explains how she adapted her novel for a new medium and digs into what

it was like for a very personal project to become a more collaborative one. We think

you'll really enjoy this episode, which also features Isaac Butler, another good friend

of our show, and if you do enjoy this episode, please make sure to subscribe to Working, wherever

you get your podcasts. All right, on with the show.

It was a very humbling experience. You take something that's so yours and you make it into

hours. It wasn't a struggle to get everyone to understand. The struggle was to know when

to hold back. Welcome back to Working. I'm your host, Isaac Butler. And I'm your other host,

June Thomas. June, I have to ask. I'm going to be traveling to the UK soon. So I want to know

how many minutes of daylight do you currently have over there? Because I hear it's very few.

About 45, somewhere between 11 55 and 12 37. So like everything else in your country, the

sun is going on strike. June, normally I would ask you whose voice we heard at the top of the

show. But come on, let's not BS a BS. I know who that is. It's the wonderful, taffy,

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