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Culture Gabfest: Heads Are Gonna Roll

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Music, Tv & Film, Arts

4.2 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

This week, Stephen Metcalf and Dana Stevens are joined by Working co-host and longtime Slate contributor Isaac Butler. First, the panel discusses David Lowery’s new movie The Green Knight, a retelling of the medieval story of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. Next, they talk about Billie Eilish’s new album Happier Than Ever with Slate music critic Carl Wilson. Finally, the hosts dig into the questions raised by Scarlett Johansson’s breach-of-contract lawsuit over the way Disney handled the release of her movie Black Widow, with Peter Labuza, a historian of creative industries. In Slate Plus, the careers the hosts almost pursued. Outro music is "Pike Place Market" by Rockin' For Decades Email us at culturefest@slate.com. Podcast production by Cameron Drews. Endorsements Dana: The word maieutic Isaac: The audiobooks of Simon Armitage’s translation of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, narrated by Bill Wallis, and The Death of Arthur, by Sir Thomas Malory, narrated by Philip Madoc Steve: Picture, by Lillian Ross and Crash Landing on You on Netflix Slate Plus members get ad-free podcasts, a bonus segment in each episode of the Culture Gabfest, full access to Slate's journalism on Slate.com, and more. Sign up now at slate.com/cultureplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Stephen McCaff and this is the Slate Culture Gap Fest, heads are going to roll edition.

0:14.8

It's Wednesday, August 4th, 2021.

0:17.8

On today's show, The Green Knight, it sounds like a Marvel movie, but its IP derives from

0:22.4

the 14th century.

0:23.7

This new and very trippy take on the ancient chivalric epic stars, Dev Patel, as a knight,

0:30.1

maybe a knight, he doesn't exactly love the term, but he's in search of dot dot dot

0:35.3

question mark, question mark, uh, himself, I think, Daniel will tell us.

0:39.2

And then Billy Eilish has a new record, happier than ever.

0:42.4

It's a downbeat take on celebrity love, public shaming, cancel culture.

0:46.5

It's great in my estimation, and we will discuss it with Slate's own Carl Wilson.

0:51.6

And finally, the Black Widow was meant to be a Blackbuster, but also a kind of a men's.

0:55.9

Scarlett Johansson would star in and carry a Marvel movie.

0:59.5

Disney would make a ton of money, fanboys and feminists rejoice.

1:03.1

So why is Scar Jo now suing Disney?

1:05.8

We discussed the latest chapter in the streaming wars with legal historian Peter Labusa.

1:10.7

Joining me today is Ik Fop, Isaac Butler, hi Isaac, what's an Ik Fop?

1:15.5

Hi Stephen, first of all, great to be here and second of all, I have no idea.

1:20.2

What is an Ik Fop?

1:21.6

You tell me it's an inner circle friend of the program.

1:24.8

Oh, nice.

1:25.6

Great, great.

1:26.4

That's awesome.

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