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Culture Gabfest - Game of Thrones Buddy Comedy Edition

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4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

This week, our Gabfest panel includes Steve and guest hosts Nadira Goffe and Laura Miller with a typically eclectic collection of topics. First up, Dana hops on the call to decode the unspoken truths and dream imagery of Kleber Mendonça Filho’s film The Secret Agent. Set in 1970s Recife, Brazil and starring a very charming Wagner Moura, the film is a heterodox brew of political thriller, magical realism, and attentive character study about the everyday surreality of life under dictatorship.


Next, it’s back to Westeros with a discussion of A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, a Game of Thrones prequel set 100 years before the original show based on George R.R. Martin’s fantasy epic. Grounded and surprisingly funny, don’t expect dragons in this knight’s tale.


Finally, they turn to “Gluttons for Punishment,” a recent Vulture article by Lila Shapiro about UPenn religious studies professor Justin McDaniel using some extreme, unorthodox measures to get his students to finish books.


In an exclusive bonus episode for Slate Plus subscribers, the panel talks to Laura about the secret pleasures of wood stacking as discussed in her recent piece “The Art of the Holzhausen.”



Endorsements


Nadira: Some melancholy shoegaze pop from Scandinavia, specifically the albums Goodbyehouse by Snuggle and Big City Life by Smerz.


Laura: The novels of Robert Jackson Bennett in his Shadow of the Leviathan series including Hugo-winning The Tainted Cup and A Drop of Corruption.


Steve:  The Substack essay “The Wall Looks Permanent Until It Falls Down” by Adam Bonica about the cost of American exceptionalism.


And a bonus one from Dana: Pictures of Ghosts, the documentary by The Secret Agent director Kleber Mendonça Filho about Recife, Brazil in the 1970s.


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Email us your thoughts at culturefest@slate.com


Podcast production by Kevin Bendis. Production assistance by Daniel Hirsch.




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0:00.0

I'm Stephen McHaff, and this is the Slate Culture Gap Fest, Game of Thrones, Buddy Comedy Edition.

0:14.8

It's Wednesday, January 21st, 2006.

0:18.4

On today's show, The Secret Agent, is a Brazilian movie. It samples lovingly from many genres

0:24.2

well, defying all of them. Let's call it a kind of thriller, maybe. We'll get into it. I'm sure

0:29.9

it's beloved by critics. It was a big winner at Cannes, and it's in line for multiple Oscar

0:34.6

nominations. Those are totally inevitable. And hopefully some wins.

0:38.7

It stars Wagner Mora as a man forced to take on an alias under the Brazilian military dictatorship.

0:44.8

It's a period piece taking place predominantly in the 1970s.

0:48.1

It's written and directed by Dana.

0:51.4

Are you turning to me for the pronunciation of the director's name?

0:54.7

I am.

0:55.3

It was you or Google.

0:57.7

I'm much more reliable in the days of AI.

1:00.0

Believe me.

1:00.9

The director's name is Clever Mendonsofiliu.

1:03.6

And as long as we're talking pronunciation, the actor, who's so wonderful in this movie, is Wagner Mora.

1:09.9

You say it like a V.

1:11.2

Can you say the writer and director's name one more time?

1:13.8

Kleber Mendonza Filu.

1:16.5

That's just, that's way foxier than Google would have given me. So I'm so glad I've

1:22.6

recurred to you. It's an amazing movie and I'm so glad you're here to discuss it with us

1:26.4

today. And then a knight of the Seven Kingdoms is a great surprise. You know, you would have thought it was an

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