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Homo Sapiens

Culture Club: The Closet: how clothes provide a lens into queerness | Part 2

Homo Sapiens

Christopher Sweeney

Arts, Society & Culture, Relationships, Health & Fitness, Sexuality

4.71.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 December 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Did you have a favorite item of clothing during your childhood? Clothes, what we wear and why we wear them provide a lens into so many aspects of queerness. Our guest today, editorial director of Soho House, Teo van den Broeke, has written a beautiful memoir called ‘Closet’ about exactly this. There are brilliant stories of the realities of being in the Closet in the nineties, from MSN accounts entitled ‘ILoveWomen87’ to errors with concealing your internet search history on the family computer- it’s a coming of age story like no other and you're going to LOVE it!


You can buy a copy of the closet here.



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0:00.0

Hello, welcome back to lovely interview with

0:03.8

Teo Vanderbilt, all about his book The Closet, go buy it, and listen to this

0:08.1

interview, here you go.

0:09.1

Should you talk about Hot Boys for a sec?

0:11.1

Yeah.

0:12.1

Boys. I know it's sort of clear but it's so it becomes

0:16.3

clearer as you read the book of how we try on versions of ourselves through clothes

0:21.2

and you said this wonderful thing about you go you go and hook up with

0:26.1

this guy and Tim and you have met him previously you kissed him in a bar and he's wearing this white, it's a white is it a

0:36.6

a Nike cap.

0:37.6

Yeah.

0:38.6

Yeah.

0:40.6

And then you, he then offers for you to meet up with him,

0:43.4

so then you take it upon yourself to go and find a cap like his

0:46.5

to where to meet him, which is so, I was just like,

0:49.2

that is exactly what I would have done.

0:50.8

I would, God forbid they fancy me because I look like me.

0:53.7

You know what I mean?

0:54.2

I have to like now dress like them in order to think not love me.

0:57.5

So and then you go and then you realize when you arrive that he's not

1:01.8

wearing the cap anymore and actually you feel really silly

1:04.7

wearing it and you say this line I think it's at the end of that section where you're like I'm looking at myself in the mirror

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