4.6 • 601 Ratings
🗓️ 12 July 2024
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Today, we’re talking about the “femininomenon” that is pop girl summer. This season's music scene has been dominated by unfiltered female sensations, including Chappell Roan, Charli XCX and Sabrina Carpenter. How did these artists become so popular? How does this scene compare with that of the pop girls of the early 2000s? And what is a ‘brat’ summer? Lilah is joined by music writer Arwa Haider and US media correspondent Anna Nicolaou to chat through it.
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Links (all FT links get you past the paywall):
– You can listen to our curation of pop girl summer hits in this Spotify playlist, or by searching “Pop Girl Summer 2024: Life and Art”. You can thank our producer Lulu Smyth
– The FT’s 4 star review of Brat is here: https://on.ft.com/4cvSTIQ
– Arwa Haider is on X @ArwaHaider. Anna Nicolaou is @annaknicolaou
– Lilah recommends Miranda July’s novel All Fours
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0:00.0 | Hi, Life and Art Listeners. This is Lila. Before we begin, I just want to tell you that we're running a short survey because we love to hear a little bit more about you and what you like about the show. The official incentive is anyone who takes part before August 29th will be entered into a prize draw to win a pair of Bose quiet comfort 35 wireless headphones. The unofficial draw is that we love you and we love making the show for you. |
0:24.1 | We want to make the best show we can. |
0:25.4 | So we appreciate all the feedback that we can get. |
0:27.9 | You can find a link to the survey and terms and conditions for the prize draw in our show notes. |
0:32.3 | And thank you. |
0:33.1 | As always, if you want to reach out directly to me, you can reach me at Life and Art at Ft.com. |
0:39.0 | Welcome to Life and Art from FT Weekend. |
0:41.6 | I'm Lila Raptopoulos, and this is our Friday chat show. |
0:45.7 | Today we are talking about what we're calling Pop Girl Summer. |
0:49.5 | This summer's music scene has been dominated by a wave of young women singers, including Chapel Rhone, |
0:55.9 | Charlie X, CX, and Sabrina Carpenter, alongside more name brand stars like Taylor Swift and |
1:01.5 | Billy Elish. What's interesting is that this goes against what we keep hearing, that the music |
1:06.3 | industry is so fragmented with so many people listening to different things that it's hard to achieve |
1:11.4 | real stardom, let alone start a trend. So today, we've invited two of our pop music experts on |
1:17.4 | to talk about why and how we found ourselves, in the words of Chapel Rhone, in a feminine |
1:22.8 | nominon. |
1:34.0 | I'm Lila and I try to be the chill girl, but honestly I'm not. |
1:40.2 | Joining me from London, she's H-O-T-O-G-O, and her kink is karma. |
1:42.6 | It's our wonderful music writer, Arwa H-W-H-R-A-Hater. |
1:43.3 | Hi, Arwa. |
2:01.9 | Hi, how's it going? What an introduction. I really thought I was going to get that acronym wrong, but I got through. I'm impressed you could pronounce the femininoluments. Thank you so much. Also in London, she's 666 with the Princess Streak. It is our US media correspondent, Anna Nicolao Hey, Waiwa. And I've been waiting for that one for you. |
2:09.0 | How are you? I'm perfect now that this is happening. Okay, let's get into it. I'm really thrilled that the three of us are talking about this, partially because you're a music expert on the culture |
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