Culture | Attar's Parable of the Moths, Part 2
Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
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🗓️ 26 May 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation, we continue to the second part of The Parable of the Moths by Attar, taken from his masterpiece Conference of the Birds.
I'm joined by the brilliant Omid Arabian of YOUniversal Center, who walks us through the next 4 lines of the poem—exploring its language, imagery, and deeper meaning.
This lesson is perfect for those with some background in Persian who want to experience the richness of mystical poetry and engage with timeless questions of love, longing, and transformation.
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| 0:00.0 | Learn Persian with Chaiang Conversation, Atar's Parable of the Moths that wanted to know more about their beloved with Omid Arabian, Part 2. Hello, Moumi-chan. Thank you for joining me for part two of this wonderful story. |
| 0:44.2 | Salam, al-al-al-a-ha. My pleasure once again. |
| 0:46.2 | So as you heard in the last episode, if you haven't heard the last episode, go listen to that first. |
| 0:52.0 | These are cumulative. We introduced this story at Tar's |
| 0:55.7 | Parable of the Moths, taken from what you might know as the Conference of the Birds, |
| 1:00.9 | at which we talked about that title a little bit as well. So there are 16 lines that Omid has |
| 1:06.2 | chosen for us to learn in this series on this particular parable, and we are currently on lines 5 through 8. |
| 1:13.7 | So just as we did in the last lesson, we're going to read lines 5 through 8. |
| 1:18.6 | Omit's going to read the Persian, and I'm going to read the English. |
| 1:21.2 | Is there anything that you want people to think about before we get started, Omid? |
| 1:24.9 | No, just to remember, if hopefully just listened to or recently |
| 1:28.8 | listened to the first part, just to remember where we were in the story, which is that a group of |
| 1:33.3 | moths have gathered and in a dark place one night, and they are seeking their object of desire, |
| 1:40.3 | their beloved, which is the candle. And so they want one of them, they're wishing that one of them |
| 1:46.2 | would go and bring some awareness, some chabar, some news of the candle. And so one of the mods |
| 1:52.3 | flies out towards a palace where the candle apparently is located and from a distance sees some |
| 1:59.5 | light in that palace emanating from the candle and then comes back to the group comes back to the other mods opens its notebook and begins to relate kind of what it has understood about the candle episode one recap okay that's right okay right. Okay. So line five. |
| 2:17.9 | Sure. |
| 2:22.0 | Naged who d'ar majee, |
| 2:26.6 | Goft, O'ra nisd as sham-ah-gahy. |
| 2:34.2 | A pundit, sage, who had a position of authority among them, said, this moth does not have a true understanding awareness of the candle. |
| 2:44.2 | Another one of the moths went and passed through the light. |
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