Well, hello, everyone. I'm James Dobson, and you're listening to Family Talk, a listener-supported

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Well, welcome to Family Talk. I'm Roger Marsh. You know, most of us at some point or another

have had a special person who has helped nudge us closer to the Lord, or maybe it was a special

situation that brought us closer to him in faith. Perhaps you might have even had a spiritual

mentor at some point along your journey? Well, today, in part two of a special conversation

with our own Dr. Tim Clinton, Pastor Rob Paseyenza will talk about the mentor who touched

his life. He'll also share about a significant loss and how he and his family made it through

their grief and trauma. Robert Paseyenza is president and CEO of D. James Kennedy Ministries. He

also serves as senior pastor of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Florida. He's the president

of Coral Ridge Ministries and is also the founder of the Institute for Faith and Culture. Rob is

married to his lovely wife, Jennifer, and together they are raising three children. So let's join

Rob Paseyenza and our own Dr. Tim Clinton right here on today's edition of Family Talk.

Rob, what a delight to have you back on the broadcast. It was a moving conversation yesterday.

Again, your new book, The Hope of the World, Christian Cultural Engagement in a secular age.

I'm encouraged because I really do believe people are saying they've had enough. It's enough.

It's unbelievable what is being flaunted in front of the eyes of our children and this indoctrination

that's happening. And God has called us again as we ended yesterday to be in but not of this world.

Pastor Rob set us up as we again reflect on what God has called us to do for such a time as this.

Yeah, that's a great great question. And I think when we look at what's happening in the world,

we're seeing what I call the fatal fruit of secularism. And I think that's what people are fed up with.

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