Hi, Chris Fowlton here. Thanks for tuning in to my podcast. I'm so excited about my new show Cultural Catalyst

where we help you to learn how to live fully live,

Co-labor with God and change the world. You can watch it weekly on my YouTube channel or listen to it here. Hope you enjoy it.

Hello everybody, welcome to Cultural Catalyst where we help you learn how to be fully live

Co-labor with God and change the world. And again this week I have my beautiful wife Kathy Valtin. Hi. You were on last week. You're gonna be on for four straight weeks. Can't get rid of me.

Let's get this done right. And last week we talked about the early days, right? Yeah. So it's kind of like this last week was like get to know you. Yeah, and we just gotten married and yeah, we got married and we we talked to my rats in the basement and my

wife to the cast role near to the cast role didn't go so well. Yes, we did. And this week we want to just expand that and we want to tell the rest of our story and then talk about our journey. What we learn from it.

And again, just to plug your book, you wrote a book called The Good, The Bad and the Ugly. No, the good, the God and the ugly. That was a movie.

So funny. Yeah, the story of a supernatural family, which was ours. You wrote that book. Yeah, it's it's it's available wherever great books are sold, including our website.

So yeah, so you know, we the rest of that story is after a year we had this beautiful marriage. We talked about it last week. It was amazing. It was absolutely wonderful.

First year, it was paradise. It was a lot of fun. And then Kathy got pregnant. I don't know how that happened. She was like, can I want to get pregnant? I want to get pregnant.

So we had we did have a little debate over. We've been together for a long time. I know. But we're only married year. And you were ready. I heard you want to have kids and then you said, well, just one kid.

I'm like, can't have one kid. No, we have to have at least two. And so you got pregnant right away. I think we're I think you were with child by the time we're like 14 months married or something.

And the middle of that, I was running a shop with 13 guys and no leadership skills, which is one of the reasons why we have a passion for this. Because you know, I was throwing in the deep end of the pool. I had a boss who really he loved me and believed to me. And we're actually working for him. Both of us for seven years.

Yeah. But you really didn't have anybody to mentor you. And there wasn't books like there is today. No. And not only that, but my boss wasn't a good he wasn't a good manager either. So I was like, and most of the guys who work for me were older because I started managing that place when I was 18.

And so that all led to me having an nervous breakdown. And we were living in San Jose, which was like, we left our little house.

Yeah, we're a year. Oh, yeah, we didn't tell we left that little house and we bought our own house. First house. We were both. First house. We owned when I was 18.

And you you stuff money away. So we are stuff and all of our extra money away. We're she's really frugal. And we had enough money to put down on a house and buy our first house.

Yeah. I don't think anyone even had the coast sign for us. No. And we bought it was like only three or four year old house. But and it was it seemingly was a nice neighborhood.

But it turned out to not be the best neighborhood. Talk about that some other time. And I and then I had a nervous breakdown. So we we were in traffic all the time driving back and forth half an hour to an hour just to get to work in the morning.

Bumper to bumper traffic really leading a fast life. Lots of responsibility. And one night I just went to get out of the bathtub and had a panic attack.

I thought it was having a hard time. Yeah. You helped me out of the bathtub eight months pregnant. I think seven months pregnant.

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