Cults, Racism, and Mother’s Day
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
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🗓️ 8 June 2022
⏱️ 48 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Rebecca, lightning round. What do you say? It's going to happen this time. It's going to happen. |
| 0:04.1 | The anonymous page says, can you talk about your experience treating couples in high control |
| 0:07.6 | religions like Jehovah Witnesses? You mentioned treating couples with culturally different views |
| 0:12.7 | on sex, such as Jehovah Witnesses. I was raised around that religion. And though I respect people's |
| 0:20.0 | choice to be in it, my experience with it was negative and involved significant trauma, culminating |
| 0:24.9 | being ostracized and shunned by people in my family and most of my social connections because |
| 0:30.1 | I was sexually assaulted. It continues to affect me as I navigate relationships and life. It affects |
| 0:36.4 | my sense of self, my sense of purpose. What else can you share about your experience treating couples |
| 0:41.9 | or people from this background or other high control religions? Do you feel there are cult |
| 0:46.2 | like effects that show up, harmful schemas? I would really value your comments and hearing your |
| 0:51.7 | experience, whatever it is. Rebecca, what do you think? Yeah, so I don't treat couples. My joke |
| 0:57.0 | there is that my mother's been married four times and it would be a bad idea to treat couples. |
| 1:03.2 | But I have treated tons of individual women who are no longer in the religion that they grew up in |
| 1:12.1 | and speak a lot about how it's impacted them. The most common theme I notice is that they have |
| 1:18.8 | an inability to trust themselves or even know what their own thoughts are. Then the growth there |
| 1:27.1 | becomes what are their thoughts and how can they attune and regulate themselves as opposed to |
| 1:33.0 | looking outside for answers for literally every piece of their behavior. Right. So when we talk |
| 1:42.4 | about gaslighting in our culture, we're typically using it incorrectly, but cults almost always, |
| 1:49.5 | if not always, gaslight their participants. Rebecca, you just basically describe the effect of that, |
| 1:56.1 | which is you don't trust your own brain or your ability to think or judge things. It's like |
| 2:02.1 | what's real, what's not real, because cults by definition and you could absolutely argue that |
| 2:08.8 | Jehovah Witness is a cult. I will say that a caveat to that is there are various different |
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