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Bad With Money With Gabe Dunn

Cults and MLMs ft. NXIVM and LulaRoe

Bad With Money With Gabe Dunn

Gabe Dunn | Diamond MPrint Productions

Business, Careers, Investing, Education

4.62.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

This week, Gaby is thrilled to welcome Sarah Edmonson and Nippy Ames of HBO’s The Vow to discuss the financial abuses involved in cults. Then, Gaby is joined by anti multi-level marketing advocate Roberta Blevins who talks about her time in LulaRoe, the documentary LulaRich, and how to keep yourself and your loved ones safe from legal pyramid schemes. For a transcript visit: https://bit.ly/BWMS9E9Transcript Gaby Dunn Instagram: @GabyRoad BWM Instagram: @bwmpod BWM Facebook group: http://tinyurl.com/badwithmoneyfb The BWM Discord channel: https://discord.gg/dAdxj4JMER Find Gaby on Patreon: patreon.com/gabydunn Shop gabydunn.com/shop for merch! Check out Sarah Edmondson on Instagram @SarahEdmondson Check out Nippy Ames on Instagram @AnthonyAmes11 Check out A Little Bit Culty on Instagram @ALittleBitCulty Bad with Money is produced and edited by Lindsey Floyd. It is sound engineered and mixed by Lindsey Floyd. The Executive Producer is Lindsey Floyd. The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

You got problems that you oughta be concerned with.

0:03.4

You don't know how you're supposed to earn it or what to do with it or how to keep it.

0:07.9

You're a freak with a dark shameful secret, but you're not the only one.

0:12.9

Teach your hidden financial fears with a blast of sun.

0:16.6

Now your healing has begun.

0:19.0

It's bad with money with Gabby.

0:21.6

Done.

0:22.1

Hello.

0:22.8

I'm Gabby Dunn and this is Bad with Money.

0:25.4

A show about finances and feelings where we don't talk down to you.

0:29.5

As I read Scard, the memoir of Nexium Whistleblower Sarah Edmondson, about her 12 years in the MLM-ish cult that resulted in being branded in a secret ceremony,

0:38.9

a shocking and brave New York Times exposé, and an HBO documentary called The Vow, I couldn't help but take note of how many times money was mentioned.

0:48.7

I'd venture to say about one-third of the book featured in-depth discussions about how much the courses and intensive cost,

0:55.4

how new recruits were pressured to spend above their means, and the constant misuse of funds.

1:01.0

There were also the repeated assertions that along with being celibate,

1:04.4

leader of Nexium Keith Reneerie, now in jail for 120 years for his crimes,

1:09.2

was someone who owned no material possessions.

1:12.7

And this was seen as a trait that placed him above other people, enlightened, brilliant.

1:19.1

Of course, none of it was true.

1:22.1

With multi-level marketing schemes like the leggings company Lula Ro, or the dietary supplements Urbal Life,

1:28.3

the financial component of the scam is obvious.

1:31.2

You buy in with the promise of making money as a quote-unquote small business owner,

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