Pastor Erwin Lutzer says there were lots of things to debate in the days of the Reformation,

but he says at the core,

The issue always came back to this issue.

What is our basis of authority?

And Luther kept coming back to the Word of God alone as the basis of authority.

This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Walgamuth, author of A Place of Quiet Rest for October 24th, 2017.

We're marking the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation next week.

Have you ever wondered what the Protestants were protesting?

And what does something that happened 500 years ago have to do with us today? To help answer those

questions, Nancy Dmas Woglmuth invited pastor and author Dr. Irwin Lutzer into the Revive

Our Heart studio. Dr. Lutzer was the pastor of Moody Church in Chicago for many years,

and recently he wrote a book called Rescuing the Gospel,

the story and significance of the Reformation. Let's pick up where we left off yesterday.

Here's Nancy talking with Dr. Irwin Lutzer. I was reading the book of Matthew the other day,

which I've done many times, and I saw something for the first time. You've had that happen, Nancy, where you see it, and you say, well, I've read this before. And I don't know exactly the passage. I couldn't turn to it unless I had a moment to do so. But Jesus said, when you're before people who are persecuting you and they're calling you in. He said, you don't have to think

of what you're going to say. You're going to be given wisdom. And then he said this. He said that

you are doing this as a witness to them. And it dawned on me that even martyrdom, and it's

easy for us to say, much more difficult if it were happening to us, that even martyrdom, and it's easy for us to say, much more difficult if it

were happening to us, but even martyrdom, the intention is to further the gospel and to be

a witness to those who are killing you.

You know that in France, when martyrs were being taken to their death, the authorities at one point hired a band

to drown out the singing of believers who were on their way to death.

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