Suffering brings us to God or has the potential to more than anything else and there's something almost where life comes into sharper focus

Yes and his heart and so I've been living sort of in this thin place of monotony and where are you in this God and so just trying to

find him as I do the dishes as I drive my kids to school as I do the dishes, as I drive my kids to school, as I look in the mirror and not always delighting

in what I see in the reflection, just inviting him, God, what do you think of me now? What's available to me in this place?

Welcome to the Random Heart Podcast. You've been listening to my friend Julie and this is

Stacy Eldridge joining you today. I'm in the ransom Heart studio and I am so

happy to have with us today a guest who is a woman I have had the privilege of

knowing for more than 20 years. I met when you were a teenager this is Julie

Goltter and let me tell you a little bit about her.

She is a cherished friend and daughter of my heart.

She is a faithful friend.

She's a lover of God, she's a devoted mother of four children, two boys and two girls,

and she is the wife of the love of her life.

So when I describe you like that Julie,

basically you're living the dream.

Yeah, yeah you are.

So actually what I want to do is ask you made a long drive to come join us this morning.

How do you come to us this morning?

Well, the long drive allowed me to worship so that really centered my heart.

So I feel good good I feel happy I feel so honored

to be here with you today and I'm excited to see where we what we talk about that's

good I gave the briefest of outlines about you, you know, just

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