Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of the influence continuum.

And today my guest is in New Zealand, a cult-busting freelance journalist who lives in New Zealand for 20 years.

Uncle Richter is author of a best-selling book

from Harper Collins' cult trip inside the world of coercion and control. And you've been investigating

sex cults, tantric yoga, human potential, fundamentalist Christianity, and Unka is also a co-founder

of the group Fact, fight against conspiracy theories, and excitingly, Unka has moved up to

organizer of the first cult awareness conference in, now is it pronounced

Australasia?

Australasia, which encompasses Australia and New Zealand, but it's actually for anybody in the world.

But it's the first one really in this part of the world, certainly the first one in New Zealand.

In New Zealand.

In our terror, as we call it.

Yeah, and so the conference is called DeCult, and we'll do the blog, and we'll promote that as well.

And I've only been to New Zealand once.

I remember a lot of green, a lot of sheep, and the scuba

diving was very cold. I remember that too, but I'm a diver, and I've been to Australia a couple of

times. No hobbits. No hobbits at the time when you were here. No hobbits, but New Zealand is a wonderful place.

And it's definitely one of the places that a lot of people are thinking about

as global climate change is happening,

is a good place to think about relocating to.

But that's another thing.

Yeah, it is a bit of an utopian escapism place for a lot of people.

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