Cribe Stories with Nancy Grace

Lori Vallow, cult mom, will it never end?

The line of dead body she leaves in her wake?

In last hour's bombshell news in the case of cult mom, Lori Vallow and her fifth husband

cult leader Chad Debel.

Cribe Stories with Nancy Grace

First of all, take a listen to our friends at KIFI.

In the recording you can hear wood talking to summer shiftlet, Lori's sister, about Lori's attorney Mark Means.

We're able to put them in jail with a high belt and these lower charges and put together a very sable

to have such a strong case that when she has a competent counsel, I don't know if you know the searcher he's never handled a felony before.

He's never, never done any meaningful criminal work at all and he doesn't know what he's doing.

He's a nice guy.

He doesn't know what he's doing and at one, once we file further charges, she will be appointed counsel who will know what they're doing.

Our goal is to put together such a case that there's smart enough to say it's going to be better to talk.

Right, they are you are hearing the prosecutor in the Valor cult mom case speaking to summer shiftlet that is a relative of Lori Vallow's

and these phone conversations have stirred up a whole pot of trouble with me and all star panel, Ashley Wilcott judge trial lawyer court TV anchor finder at Ashley Wilcott.com, Dr. Angela Arnold renounced like I choose joining us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction.

You can find her at Angela Arnold MD dot com director of the cold case research institute crime scene expert Cheryl McCollum.

Also she is at coldcase crimes dot org professor forensic Jackson State University author of blood beneath my feet on Amazon starver brand new hit series on the true crime network poisonous liaisons death investigator.

Joseph Scott Morgan at first I'm going to go to crack reported with the east Idaho news dot com Eric gross art.

Eric does it never end with this I mean explain to me the recording we just played for everyone I'm hearing the prosecutor mart wood speaking to summer shiftlet.

He's saying the cult mom Lori Valor's current lawyer has never tried a felony well right now until they charge Lori Valor with murder.

That may not be an issue but we understand that the prosecutors are this close to a conspiracy to commit murder charge yes no.

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