Cult Hackers w/ Stephen & Celine Mather

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Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 566 Ratings

🗓️ 13 September 2023

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Celine and Stephen Mather are a father-and-daughter podcast team. Stephen is now an organizational psychologist but was raised in a high-control group, leaving when he was around thirty years old, around the time when Celine was born. He has an interest in how cults operate and how people establish their sense of self after they leave, his dissertation for his Masters in Organizational Psychology explored this question. Celine is a media graduate and for obvious reasons has an interest in cults, having a particular perspective on them, as she grew up in a home where her parents worked to make a life outside the group. In this open and revealing Father and Daughter conversation Stephen and Celine open up to Rachel about how their family's involvement with the Jehovah's Witnesses affected their respective childhoods for better or worse. Throughout the discussion, Rachel and Stephen offer their professional analysis of the family dynamics involved with high-control religious groups, while Celine shares her unique perspective from being raised with tertiary involvement with the Church. Before You Go: Rachel explains how raising children can often be the catalyst for members of high-control religions to finally recognize the harmful ideologies and ultimately leave the group. You can be in touch with Stephen and Celine at: culthackers@gmail.com Listen to Stephen and Celine's excellent podcast Cult Hackers here: https://pod.link/1540824671 All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0	Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.
0:11.1	I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.
0:13.5	Hi, everybody. Today on the show, it's so special when we have parents and children together.
0:19.5	I love it, love it, love it. You get to hear from
0:22.9	a father and a daughter who have just a beautiful way of interacting with each other and also have
0:31.6	very interesting story to share. Selene and Stephen Mather, they are a father and daughter podcast team. Stephen is now an
0:41.3	organizational psychologist but was raised in a high control group, leaving when he was around 30 years
0:47.7	old, around the time when Celine was born. He has an interest in how cult operate and how people
0:53.6	establish their sense of self after they leave.
0:56.6	His dissertation for his master's in organizational psychology explored this question.
1:02.5	Celine is a media graduate and for obvious reasons has an interest in cults,
1:07.5	having a particular perspective on them as she grew up in a home where her parents
1:11.6	work to make a life outside the group. Their email address and the link to their podcast
1:17.9	will be in the show notes. And it's my pleasure to introduce you to Celine and Stephen Mather.
1:27.8	Here they are now.
1:29.1	I am so happy to have the dynamic duo with me today of Stephen and Celine. You are calling in from a
1:48.1	distance from me. And it's always exciting to speak to people halfway or almost halfway around the
1:54.5	world. And I want you to be able to introduce yourselves and then we'll get into not only your story,
2:03.9	but what you've been doing since, because that's really fascinating what you've created
2:08.7	between the two of you. So, Celine, do you want to start? Yeah, sure. So I can rattle off my
2:15.2	usual intro. I'm getting fairly good at it now. So yeah, we have the
2:18.9	cult hackers podcast. I'm Celine. I'm a media graduate with an interesting cults, as I always say,
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