Culper Partners Rule of Law Series: Ron Klain
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🗓️ 21 April 2019
⏱️ 56 minutes
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In this fifth episode of the special Culper Partners Rule of Law Series, David Kris and Nate Jones speak with former senior White House and DOJ official Ron Klain.
Ron has served his country repeatedly, including in senior positions at the highest levels of all three branches of government. He has served as a law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Byron White, Chief Counsel of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Chief of Staff to Vice Presidents Joe Biden and Al Gore, and in that role, also served as a senior advisor to Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. He has worked on seven presidential campaigns, including the 2000 election between George W. Bush and then-Vice President Al Gore. Today, among other things, he is an adjunct professor at both Georgetown University and Harvard Law School.
Ron takes us on a trip down memory lane to discuss the hotly contested 2000 election, and in doing so, he shares his perspective on why he thinks the Supreme Court's decision departed from the rule of law. Ron also worries that our democracy is caught in a symbiotic downward spiral together with the rule of law. From active measures being deployed by foreign adversaries, to partisan political efforts to rig the system, Ron is concerned about the future.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | Vice President Gore believed profoundly in the rule of law, believed profoundly in the |
| 0:39.9 | idea of our institutions and believed profoundly those institutions were more important than |
| 0:44.6 | any one election and anyone person. |
| 0:48.8 | I'm Nate Jones and I'm David Chris and this is the Culper Partners Rule of Law Special |
| 0:53.4 | Series on the LawFair podcast. |
| 0:58.0 | In this special series, we explore the rule of law particularly as it relates to U.S. |
| 1:02.6 | National Security and Criminal Law Enforcement. |
| 1:05.0 | Today we're joined by Ron Claim, former senior White House and DOJ official. |
| 1:09.9 | Ron has served his country repeatedly including in senior positions at the highest levels |
| 1:14.0 | of all three branches of the government. |
| 1:16.3 | He began his legal career as a law clerk to Justice Byron White on the Supreme Court. |
| 1:21.0 | He was Chief Counsel of the Senate Judiciary Committee. |
| 1:23.9 | He was Chief of Staff, Vice President Joe Biden and Al Gore and in that role also served |
| 1:28.9 | as a senior advisor to President Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. |
| 1:33.0 | He's a veteran of Democratic Party politics. |
| 1:35.7 | He's worked on seven presidential campaigns including the hotly contested 2000 election |
| 1:40.6 | between George W. Bush and then Vice President Al Gore. |
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