Culper Partners Rule of Law Series: John Bellinger
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🗓️ 8 June 2019
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of the special Culper Partners Rule of Law Series, David Kris and Nate Jones speak with John Bellinger.
John is one of the country's foremost experts in international law. His career has included the private practice of law and more than a decade in the federal government, as both a career official and a political appointee. From 2001–2005, John served in the White House under George W. Bush as legal advisor to the National Security Council and as senior associate counsel to the president. From 2005–2009, he served as a legal advisor to the Department of State, and in 2009, he returned to private practice at Arnold & Porter, where he heads the firm's public international law practice.
In his remarks, John expresses a profound anguish over assaults on the rules-based international order. We in the United States largely built this system, and we have benefitted enormously from it—some critics would say we've benefitted too much. And now we are tearing it down, to the delight of Russian President Putin and authoritarian leaders worldwide. It's a sobering conversation with one of America's foremost international lawyers.
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| 0:29.0 | What I think we need to be careful is that it is very important for the United States, |
| 0:39.0 | though, is to make sure there is not backsliding on some of the non-economic rules. |
| 0:45.0 | Support for democracy, support for rule of law, support for the free press. |
| 0:51.0 | I'm David Chris. |
| 0:53.0 | And I'm Nate Jones. |
| 0:54.0 | And this is the Culper Partners Rule of Law special series on the LawFair podcast. |
| 0:58.0 | In this podcast series, we explore the rule of law particularly as it relates to |
| 1:02.0 | U.S. national security and criminal law enforcement. |
| 1:05.0 | Today, we're joined by John Belinger. |
| 1:08.0 | John is one of the country's foremost experts in international law. |
| 1:11.0 | His career has included the private practice of law and more than a decade in the federal government. |
| 1:16.0 | It's both a career official and a political appointee. |
| 1:19.0 | From 2001 to 2005, John served in the White House under George W. Bush as legal adviser to the National Security Council. |
| 1:27.0 | And as senior associate counsel to the president, from 2005 to 2009, he served as a legal adviser to the Department of State. |
| 1:36.0 | And in 2009, he returned to private practice at the LawFair, Arnold and Porter, where he heads the firm's public international law practice. |
| 1:45.0 | The focus of this podcast series is the rule of law. |
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