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From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle.

This is Tangle.

A place where you get views from across the political spectrum, some reasonable debate and independent thinking without the historical nonsense you find everywhere else.

I am your host, Isaac Saul, and today I'm recording from our fresh new office space, which has not really been broken in or set up.

So I'm going to apologize in advance for maybe a little lower sound quality than usual. But I am so excited for our guest, Jorge Felipe Gonzalez, who's here to discuss some of the happenings in Cuba.

Jorge received his BA in history from the University of Havana, Cuba, and a PhD in

history from Michigan State University. He does a lot of research on the island and the history

of Cuba. He's writing a book right now about transatlantic slave trade. And he's also gotten

some attention for a piece he recently published in the Atlantic,

kind of criticizing the Black Live Matter organization response to the situation in Cuba,

which I thought was really interesting and actually shared in the newsletter.

Jorge, thank you so much for being here.

Thank you for hiring me, Isaac.

So I think before we jump in, it'd be really good for our listeners

to just sort of set the table a little bit for this conversation. And you are certainly much

more qualified to do it than I am. Maybe you could give us like a 90 second two minute breakdown

of what's going on in Cuba right now, what's happening

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