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CTD6 – The Oasis of Lent – Crossing the Desert: Lent and Conversion with Deacon James Keating – Discerning Hearts Podcast

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🗓️ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Communal worship speaks to this need. We usually imagine worship as a break in our secular lives, or sometimes even an obstacle to achieving other goals. With this attitude, worship is sometimes simply seen as “time out” from what is really important. Without denying the importance of secular realities for the laity, could we look at worship in another way? Worship is not an obstacle to daily living; it is not time off from more vital realities. Worship is, in fact, the great doorway into all that is both secular and holy. It is our way into real living. In worship, we find the great integration of the simple, ordinary, and plain (people, bread, wine, words) with the holy and transcendent (paschal mystery, incarnation, grace, transformation, salvation). The call of the laity is to carry into each day of work and domestic commitment the truth that the ordinary and the holy are not opposed. Only sin and the holy are opposed. Lenten worship services help us bring this truth to the world.

The more we come to see the presence of Christ in worship as a presence that permeates our being in the world, the more we will hunger to participate in worship as the source of our moral witness in everyday life. The Eucharist primarily is our participation in Christ’s Paschal Mystery, which is his self-offering to the Father, both in his life and upon the cross, and is also the Father’s response in raising him from the dead. Christ came to us; he came to dwell upon Earth and take on created goodness so that all in creation that is not good (sin) may be transformed by his presence, by grace. We too, in communion with him through the grace of the sacramental life, fill the ordinary world with his presence and become witnesses to this salvation through virtue and grace cooperating in moral activity.

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Discerninghearts.com presents Crossing the Desert, but Deacon James Keating. Deacon Keating is a professor

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of spiritual theology at Kenrick Lennon Seminary in St. Louis, Missouri. He's the author of numerous books,

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including The Heart of the Deacchonet, Remain in Me, and Crossing, Desert, Lent and Conversion,

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the book on which this series is based.

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He has done more than 400 workshops of moral theology and spirituality nationally,

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and regularly conducts retreats.

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Crossing the Desert, but Deacon James Keating, I'm your host, Chris McGregor.

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Welcome back, Deacon Keating.

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Thank you.

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We've been traveling essentially through Crossing the Desert, your book on Lent and Conversion.

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And in the chapter, The Desert of Sin, you make us aware that we never get to a point in our lives where we can say we are perfectly virtuous.

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Is there an end?

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Well, the fulfillment of our lives as this response to Jesus.

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I mean, that's all our life is.

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