CTD4 – The Desert of Sin – Crossing the Desert: Lent and Conversion with Deacon James Keating – Discerning Hearts Podcast
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🗓️ 16 March 2026
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"Any moral conversion, if it is to be real, must work its way into our minds and hearts. The conversion we undergo is one that transforms our entire person, and so our thought processes, habits, perceptions, and affections all become realigned to a new way of seeing good and evil Patience with ourselves, as well as with ohters who are also in the midst of conversion, becomes the key virtue to cultivate. God knows we are on the right track once we embrace such a conversion, and so being gentle on ourselves is not a sign of laxity or weakness of will, but a sign of wisdom.
Of course, the start of a moral conversion can be dramatic and jumpstart a change, but over the long haul of life, the heart of a person must be fully cooperative; otherwise, the person will not adhere to the moral truth for long."
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Chris McGregor. Before we begin, I want to let you know that Disserting Hearts needs your help. |
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| 0:34.1 | Discerninghearts.com presents Crossing the Desert, but Deacon James Keating. Deacon Keating is a professor |
| 0:41.0 | of spiritual theology at Kenrick Lennon Seminary in St. Louis, Missouri. He's the author of numerous books, |
| 0:48.4 | including The Heart of the Deacchonet, Remain in Me, and Crossing and Conversion, the book on which this series is based. |
| 0:57.7 | He has done more than 400 workshops of moral theology and spirituality nationally and regularly |
| 1:03.9 | conducts retreats. |
| 1:06.4 | Crossing the Desert, but Deacon James Keating, I'm your host, Chris McGregor. |
| 1:14.1 | Probably... passing the desert, but Deacon James Keating, I'm your host, Chris McGregor. Probably one of the most compelling, or dare I say, provocative chapter titles that you have in the book is the desert of sin. |
| 1:23.2 | And this just points our minds to the fact of sins total lifelessness. |
| 1:28.1 | That's all we're trying to get at there is that it is a mirage to think that any of the deadly sins, |
| 1:37.5 | anger and pride, envy, sloth, gluttony, any of these sins is giving you life. |
| 1:46.2 | They are giving you some form of consolation, pathological as it may be. |
| 1:51.7 | You're getting something from them, but you're not getting life from them. |
| 1:55.7 | And this, of course, plays right into the whole understanding of Satan as the Father of Lies. |
| 2:01.8 | When we enter into these sins habitually, we are receiving some pathological consolation, |
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