CS#71: Dutch Commando Corps Officer (KCT) | Dutch General Intelligence Service (AIVD) | Triangular Group CEO | Ray Klaassens
Combat Story
Ryan Fugit
4.8 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 23 April 2022
⏱️ 98 minutes
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Ray comes from very humble origins and the other side of the “canal” as he likes to say, overcoming so much to reach the pinnacle of intelligence and military units. Both KCT and AIVD, if you ask any American who served alongside them (including myself), are elite units that many of us would happily go down range with.
Since leaving the service, Ray overcame even greater odds to create his company, Triangular Group, that provides de-risking and intelligence services for clients globally.
I hope you enjoy this international Combat Story from humble roots to true success in military, intel, and business as much as I did.
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Intro Song: Sport Rock from Audio Jungle
Show Notes:
0:00 - Intro
1:22 - Guest Introduction (Ray Klaassens)
2:21 - Interview begins
5:11 Growing up poor in the Netherlands
17:47 The process for becoming an officer in the Dutch military
24:44 About the different Dutch Special Forces and the KCT
33:07 What it was like in the Netherlands on 9/11 and how his commando training changed
38:14 Leading a team down range with very little intel
54:01 Story of engaging with a drunk guy in Afghanistan in order to get some information
56:37 Leading a team to find someone placing IEDs on the full moon
1:05:45 Switching from Special Forces to Intel Services AIBD as a secret service
1:20:50 Exiting Intel Services, starting the Triangular Group, and what they are doing today
1:33:47 - What did you carry into combat?
1:35:01 - Would you do it all again?
1:36:17 - Listener comments and shout outs
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | but we were picked out out of a sinkhole and deployed 16 hours later. We just a lot of money, |
| 0:08.0 | a lot of ammunition, 16 bodies and guns. No real good tasking, |
| 0:14.8 | not a very clear picture of what's going on other than media and the intel brief from the |
| 0:20.4 | MIVD. This is the Military Intelligence Service. Welcome to Combat Story. I'm Ryan Fugid and I serve |
| 0:26.8 | Warzone tours as an Army attack helicopter pilot and CIA officer over a 15-year career. I'm |
| 0:32.4 | fascinated by the experiences of the elite in combat. On this show, I interview some of the best |
| 0:37.8 | to understand what combat felt like on their frontlines. This is Combat Story. I'm so excited |
| 0:43.6 | to tell you all that we're launching on Patreon today. Thanks to so many of you who signed up in |
| 0:48.4 | the past couple months to be notified. For those who aren't familiar with Patreon, it's an |
| 0:52.4 | opportunity to be part of the Combat Story community and join a chat group with myself and other |
| 0:57.2 | serious fans. When you sign up, you'll get access to a Discord server, which is basically a big chat |
| 1:02.0 | room, where we'll talk all about combat story guests, upcoming episodes, what I'm thinking about |
| 1:06.6 | my next interviews, some of the questions I'm preparing, the books we're reading, and most importantly, |
| 1:11.6 | your suggestions to make the show better. I can't wait to see you there. Head over to patreon.com |
| 1:16.4 | slash combat story to join, and now back to the show. Today we hear an international combat story |
| 1:24.4 | from Ray Klossens, a Dutch special operator in the Commando Corps, or KCT, and former Dutch |
| 1:30.5 | General Intelligence Service, or AIVD officer, who spent years in combat zones fighting our very |
| 1:36.8 | same enemies alongside American counterparts. Ray comes from very humble origins, and the other |
| 1:43.0 | side of the canal, as he likes to say, overcoming so much to reach the pinnacle of intelligence and |
| 1:48.8 | military units. Both KCT and AIVD, if you ask any American who served alongside them, including |
| 1:55.5 | myself, are elite units that many of us would happily go downrange with. Since leaving the service, |
| 2:02.1 | Ray overcame even greater odds to create his own company, triangular group, that provides |
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