If we are going to live in this future of billions of AI agents popping up and autonomously

conducting economic activity between each other, they need a way to verify with the people

that they're interacting with, the other agents that they're interacting with. And so AI kind of makes

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Thanks for joining us, Daniel.

Welcome to the show.

Thank you so much.

Thanks for having me. Cool. So I mean, I'll address. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.

Cool. So, I mean, I'll address the elephant in the room. Like, the market is tanking. Bitcoin is down and the rest of the crypto market with it. So like how much of this is cope that maybe, you know, an AI primitive can save crypto from the blood in the streets?

No, for sure. I mean, I think that I actually think a lot of this,

the selling is driven by, right, OG bitcoins that could be transitioning their mining operations

to AI. So I think that AI is the place to look here like you're identifying.

And I think right now, there aren't a ton of very obvious connections between the two technologies,

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