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Crypto and Fintech Are Colliding. Who Wins, and How? - Ep. 856

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Cross-border payments. Mobile money. Stablecoins. Crypto. Elizabeth Rossiello has lived through every cycle, not from a trading desk, but the front lines of African markets. Now, the founder of AZA Finance is selling her company to global fintech giant dLocal, a signal that the line between crypto and traditional finance is blurring fast. In this episode, she talks about: How stablecoins are powering 24/7 commerce in emerging markets Why new entrants keep failing to gain traction And how liquidity, not tech, will determine who wins this new game All that, plus the inside story of AZA’s journey from a Nairobi-based Bitcoin exchange to one of the most important fintech players in Africa. Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Bitwise Human Rights Foundation Xapo Bank Elizabeth Rossiello, CEO and Founder of AZA Finance Previous appearance on Unchained: BitPesa's Elizabeth Rossiello on Necker Island dLocal announces intention to acquire AZA Finance to strengthen AZA Finance: dLocal announces intention to acquire AZA Finance to strengthen presence in Africa and expand capabilities Bloomberg: Uruguay’s DLocal to Buy AZA Finance in Africa Push American Banker: What experienced payment execs can pass to a new generation The Startup Leap: Building A Remittance App for Africa’s $1tr Market | Elizabeth Rossiello | Aza Finance Jack Zhang of Airwallex tweet saying he doesn’t see “a single use case” for crypto Timestamps: 🎬0:00 Intro 🌍 3:30 What Africa’s early payments scene looked like and how Elizabeth launched the first Bitcoin exchange there 📲 10:54 How the continent’s payment rails evolved 🔥 16:15 How Western Union dropped its pricing after her company launched 💸 20:42 Why stablecoins became a game-changer for cross-border payments 📊 25:24 What the real volume drivers are 🌐 28:53 How crypto adoption in Africa shifted post-COVID 🤝 37:00 Why AZA decided to acquire two companies ⚠️ 38:46 How the FTX partnership hurt AZA 💼 41:37 How the dLocal deal came together behind the scenes 🔄 45:08 Why crypto and fintech are on a fast path to convergence 🏁 50:58 Which players Elizabeth thinks will win in the new payments race 📵 53:47 Why “mobile money” is still tough competition for crypto 💥 56:48 How USDT has an edge in emerging markets 🇨🇳 58:50 How China’s deep ties to Africa have shaped the game 🚀 1:01:37 What it’s been like to build AZA as a young woman founder in crypto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So you see tons of startups now. There's this tech event we were at in April,

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the Africa Tech Summit, and it was hundreds of companies and half of them were involved in

0:29.2

crypto in some way. And that was before Stablecoin summer. So that was like the precursor.

0:34.3

You know, kind of see the trends happening in Africa that later hit the rest of

0:37.6

the world. And everybody was there. And it was just wild to see.

0:45.8

Hi, everyone. Welcome to Unchained, your no hype resource for all things crypto. I'm your host,

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Laura Shin. Every episode of Unchained, I read comments from listeners. Today we have a comment from

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Emily Jr., responding to my recent interview with Jesse Pollock about JPMorgan's announcement of a

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U.S.U token launch on base. On X, M.L. Lee Jr. said, JPM on base, Stripe on base. Pruperi

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acquired by Stripe. Largest bank in United States, JPM.

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Larges private fintech on planet, Stripe.

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