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Bits + Bips: Bitcoin Brushes Off Another War & Will Powell Relent on Rates? - Ep. 857

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

As tensions flare between Iran and Israel, investors are watching oil, gold, and, of course, crypto. In this episode of Bits + Bips, the panel digs into the market response to war risk, the chances the Fed will actually cut rates, and how Circle’s IPO is being treated more like a meme stock than a fintech play. Plus: Why Scaramucci says we’re all living in a surveillance state  Whether stablecoins are being kneecapped by U.S. regulation  When altcoin ETFs are coming And what BlackRock’s Larry Fink secretly told Scaramucci about Bitcoin in 2021 👀 Sponsor: Bitwise James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Alex Kruger, Founder of Asgard Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter  Anthony Scaramucci, Founder of SkyBridge US-Iran-Israel war Unchained: Bitcoin Dips Below $100K as U.S.–Iran Tensions Trigger $627M in Liquidations Polymarket: Will Iran close the Strait of Hormuz before July? WSJ: What Israel’s Soaring Markets Are Saying About the Iran War Macro WSJ: Fed’s Bowman Says She Could Support a July Interest-Rate Cut CNBC: Fed Governor Waller says central bank could cut rates as early as July FT: Jay Powell to push back on calls for Federal Reserve rate cuts as soon as July Stablecoins WSJ: Stablecoin World Opens Up to Main Street Banks The Block: Circle's post-IPO stock surge pushes market cap near Coinbase and USDC ETFs James upped the odds on a bunch of altcoin spot ETFs Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Intro 🌍 2:51 Are there lessons in how the markets shrugged off the Iran-Israel conflict? 🔥 9:37 What flashpoints in the Middle East could ignite next 🛢️ 14:40 Will oil supplies remain safe? 💸 22:13 Are cracks finally forming in the Fed’s resistance to rate cuts? 📉 28:08 Why Anthony believes that Fed Chair Powell is playing politics with rates 🇺🇸 33:55 Whether TACO Trump or tough Trump will show up on tariff day 🎯 36:26 What Anthony says that people get wrong about Trump’s economic strategy 🏦 43:52 Why Circle’s IPO feels more meme than fintech and what Larry Fink once secretly told Anthony about bitcoin 👀 🚫 50:27 One thing that Anthony HATES about the GENIUS Act 📊 56:17 Why James is upping his odds on a wave of altcoin ETFs, but doesn’t expect many to be successful products Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:18.1

Hey, everyone. Just a quick note about today's show. It was recorded live at

0:22.5

4.30 p.m. Eastern on Monday, approximately 90 minutes before President Trump announced a ceasefire

0:28.5

between Israel and Iran. That's why it is not addressed in this recording. As of Tuesday

0:34.5

evening, the cessation of hostilities appears to be holding that it remains a fluid situation.

0:39.8

And now, on to the show.

0:41.6

The president is tweeting at the Fed president, the chairman of the Federal Reserve.

0:46.9

You know, I think it's assonite.

0:47.8

I don't think you should be tweeting at him.

0:49.4

You're shoving him, and he's trying to help you and trying to help the flow of capital in the United

0:55.1

States by having some level of political independence.

0:58.9

And Trump shoving him is not helping the situation.

1:01.4

Probably, if anything, I think the rates could go down.

1:05.1

And I think Trump has actually slowed that process with his nonsensical, asinine behavior.

1:12.1

Yeah, I mean, he was calling him a moron saying he doesn't understand things.

1:15.1

I mean, it might be like, if that was me, it might push me the other direction.

1:19.1

Not you.

1:20.1

How about if it's Jerome Powell?

1:21.5

Jerome Powell's giving him the bird right now.

1:23.6

You know that and I know that.

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