Okay, we're back here on this week in startups. I'm your host, Jason Calakana. I'm an angel

investor in 350 companies over the last 11, 12 years been doing this podcast for about

the same period of time, actually. And one of the things that is the bane of existence

is people asking me the same basic questions over in Oregon. I try to be super helpful,

but I decided what would be most helpful is if I could just give people a URL and say,

O2, this week in startups.com slash basics, just like I wrote the book, Angel, so I can stop

having the same conversations about how do you pick companies? I send them the book where

I say go to Angel University and then ask me your question. So we're starting with questions

on third base. Well, here we are. I wanted to do that for legal accounting, HR, marketing,

all this stuff. So we started the startup basic series. It's gone incredibly well.

And one of the great reasons it's gone so well is we have a series of providers that

we use kind of on our short list. When we fund a company, they'll say, Hey, I need

a countdown, you legal, I need this. We can be short list. Hey, here's people we trust.

And one of those people we trust and we work with all the time is Scott Warren. He is

the chief operating officer of crews. You can visit them at cruiseconsulting.com slash

twist. Welcome back to the program, Scott. We've been going through all these basics.

Again, this year we did stuff on end of the year. And now we're going to talk today

about crypto. When did crypto start hitting your customer base? And when when you start,

when did you start first facing these accounting issues? And what were the first couple of

accounting issues?

There was a wave about four or five years ago with a lot of the ICO stuff, but that got

a little crazy, a little, it was almost like a gold rush. And maybe not, I mean, there's

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