Cruz vs Tucker Debate: On Israel & Iran- Trump is Right, Tucker is Wrong
The Ben Ferguson Podcast
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🗓️ 20 June 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
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Cruz vs. Carlson on Foreign Policy:
- Cruz defends a strong U.S. alliance with Israel and supports aggressive action against Iran’s nuclear ambitions.
- Carlson is portrayed as advocating for isolationism, opposing U.S. involvement in foreign conflicts, and questioning support for Israel.
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Tensions and “Gotcha” Moments:
- Carlson challenges Cruz with questions like the population of Iran, which Cruz admits he didn’t know offhand.
- Cruz criticizes Carlson for using such moments to create viral clips rather than engage in substantive debate.
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Iranian Threats Against Trump:
- Cruz cites intelligence and DOJ reports alleging that Iran has plotted to assassinate Donald Trump and former Trump officials.
- Carlson is skeptical or unaware of these claims, leading to a heated exchange.
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Accusations of Anti-Israel Bias:
- Cruz accuses Carlson of obsessively targeting Israel and groups like AIPAC, suggesting a double standard not applied to other U.S. allies.
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Moral Clarity and American Exceptionalism:
- Cruz argues against moral relativism, asserting that the U.S. and its leaders are fundamentally different from authoritarian regimes like Russia or Iran.
- He emphasizes “peace through strength” and a foreign policy based on protecting American interests.
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Trump’s Position:
- Trump is quoted supporting Cruz’s stance and reaffirming his own “America First” doctrine, particularly in opposing a nuclear-armed Iran.
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| 0:35.7 | Welcome, it is Vertiquist, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. It's so nice to have |
| 0:40.0 | you with us. Many of you listening to this on radio around the country, and we are thrilled to have |
| 0:44.6 | you with us as well. Don't forget, we do this show as a podcast, so make sure you hit that |
| 0:49.2 | subscribe or auto download button. If you download Vertic with Ted Cruz, we do it three days a week, and obviously this |
| 0:55.8 | radio show as well. Senator, we've got a lot to talk about in the show, but let's just start with |
| 1:01.8 | the big thing everybody's wanting to hear about, and that is your sit-down interview in your |
| 1:06.5 | office with Tucker Carlson. Well, this week I sat down with Tucker Carlson. We did a two-hour interview |
| 1:12.6 | in my office. And I got to tell you, it was a bloodbath. The two of us, frankly, beat the living |
| 1:19.9 | daylights out of each other for two hours straight. It was, there were fireworks. I'll tell you |
| 1:25.4 | online, there have been over 100 million views on clips from this |
| 1:29.7 | show it it was vigorous it was contested it was look it laid out two very different views on foreign |
| 1:39.2 | policy and and it's what we're going to talk about today. Yeah, it really is incredible on the foreign |
| 1:45.0 | policy front. So let's just start with the basic question that I think so many people have |
| 1:49.3 | been asking me when they saw the snippets of this interview. And I would actually encourage |
| 1:53.2 | people to watch the entire interview, not just the little things that popped on social media. |
| 1:58.8 | But number one, like, why did you decide to do this interview with him? |
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