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Crowdfunding a Ukrainian Defense Revisited

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4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2022

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Economist Garrett Wood revisits Ukraine's unique defense arrangement.

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0:00.0

This is the Kator Daily Podcast for Wednesday, March 16, 2022.

0:06.7

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:07.6

How has Ukraine's crowd-funded territorial defense worked out?

0:12.1

As Russia continues its assault, much of the new

0:14.1

crowdfunding has flowed to the government rather than independent groups.

0:17.7

Researcher Garrett Wood has studied unconventional defense arrangements, most

0:22.0

especially the arrangement in Ukraine.

0:24.2

We spoke earlier this week.

0:27.1

You and I spoke for Cato Daily Podcast, just about a year ago, about defense in Ukraine and the unique way that Ukraine, which, let's be honest,

0:40.9

is a fairly corrupt government in a lot of ways and there's a lot of

0:46.0

leakage when it comes to monies that ought to be devoted to national defense, how they essentially crowd-funded defense of particular areas, trying

0:57.9

to meet particular needs to provide for their own common defense in an uncommon way.

1:05.1

How do you think that that defense has performed in beating back or attempting to beat back Russian aggression there.

1:14.0

So in 2014 it performed very well.

1:17.0

And you have sources from the Ukrainian government itself

1:20.0

talking about how the majority of the fighting

1:22.0

or the lion's share of the fighting was done by volunteer forces funded primarily through crowdfunding efforts.

1:28.0

Now obviously a lot has changed since 2014 and what we have now is a more robust though still corrupt Ukrainian

1:36.2

government that's made a lot of changes in terms of civilian oversight and

1:40.7

in terms of bringing on territorial defense battalions, so volunteers that had

1:48.9

previously served kind of independent of Ukraine's control.

1:57.0

And so what you're seeing then is that we've got kind of a distinction, not so much in the crowdfunding area.

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