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Critical Ponerology (WHAT IS “EVIL”?) with Kenneth MacKendrick

Ologies with Alie Ward

Alie Ward

Comedy, Science, Society & Culture

4.923.8K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

What is evil? Who is evil? Does evil exist? Who decides? Can we scream over turkey at grandma’s house? Let’s chat Critical Ponerology with scholar, professor, author of Evil: A Critical Primer, and a gem of a person, Dr. Kenneth MacKendrick of the University of Manitoba. He’s been teaching courses on the notion of evil for 25 years and it’s a much deeper rabbit hole than you’d ever expect. So rub your fingers together and enjoy a discussion about different cultural approaches to evil, if your toddler is evil, vampires, angry mobs seeking vigilante justice, news personalities saying unhinged things, and subjects vs. objects. Also: why you should be nicer to your coffee table.

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Oh, hey, it's the dog toy under the couch that you won't find for another four months.

0:06.2

Alley Ward and it's evil.

0:08.0

Let's talk about it with a professor in the Department of Religion at the University of Manitoba,

0:13.3

who has written the book on it.

0:15.3

It's titled Evil, a Critical Primer, and teaches the course Evil in World world religions. They have a bachelor in religious

0:22.8

studies, a master's in critical theory and religion and feminist ethics, and a PhD in critical

0:28.7

theory ethics, hermeneutics, and psychoanalysis, and who will deal with my questions, such as

0:35.2

what is evil? Who is evil? What do we do about evil? Can we scream

0:39.1

over Turkey at Grandma's House? We're going to get into it. But first, thank you so much to patrons who support the show and have from the beginning, and y'all leave your questions. You too can join for a dollar a month at patreon.com slash ologies. Thanks to everyone wearing ologies merch from ologiesmerch.com. If you have kids or sensitive ears, we also have versions of Ologies that are classroom and kids safe, G-rated. Those are in their own feed. They're called Smologis, S-M-O-L-G-I-E-S, which is linked in the show notes. Thank you to anyone who leaves reviews for the show, which helped so much, and I read all of

1:12.0

them, and I prove it with a recent one. This one is from Tomatio 22, who wrote that the show

1:16.4

makes the interesting, extremely interesting, and the uninteresting, equally as interesting.

1:22.2

And also, after listening to last week's cockroach episode, the show made them eat bugles.

1:26.7

For the first time in over a decade,

1:28.8

they say, no regerts. Tomatio 22, may the horn be with you. It is also with me. Also, thank you

1:35.7

to sponsors of the show who make it possible for us to donate to a cause that theologist chooses

1:39.8

each week. Okay, critical ponorology. So, ponorology comes from the Greek word for evil,

1:46.5

and you will understand why the critical is in there in a minute. We fudged it a little bit. But ever

1:52.3

since I saw the word ponorology on this big ologies list as the study of evil, I have wanted to

1:58.1

explore the topic so much. So let's talk about the origins of evil,

2:02.7

different cultural approaches to the notion. Who uses the word evil to mean what if your toddler

2:08.3

is evil? Vampires, angry mobs seeking vigilante justice. News personalities saying unhinged

2:14.7

things. When you are a subject and when you are an object, why should you

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