You're listening to the SSPX podcast and welcome to episode 31 of the crisis in the church series.

Today we'll start with the first of two episodes with Father Paul Robinson about the doctrine outside the church, there's no salvation.

And today we'll be speaking about Father Leonard Feeney and the organizations that he was a part of, the St. Benedict's Center and the

slaves of the Immaculate Heart. Why discuss this doctrine and this movement, commonly known

as Feneism during this point in the crisis in the church series? Well, because this movement,

which started before the Second Vatican Council started, contains stark warnings about the current

traditional movement in the 21st century.

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Now we'll turn to our conversation with Father Robinson.

Welcome back to the SSPX podcast in our next episode on the Crisis in the Church series,

joined by Father Paul Robinson from St. Isidors in Denver, Colorado.

Hello, Father, how are you?

Hello, Andrew. I'm doing fine.

Great. Great. Well, today we are talking about phoenism, which is something that popped up in

mid-part of the 20th century. And this is a little bit different from some of the other

topics that we've talked about in terms of, well, this is more of a traditional error or a

conservative error, I guess we could say. It went too far to the conservative side of things,

as opposed to many of the other things we've been talking about, which are errors too far on

the liberal side of things or modernist side of things. So what is phoenism and why are we talking about it today, Father?

Well, let me just say first of all that this is a topic that hits close to home for me

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