You're listening to the SSPX podcast, and welcome to episode 22 of the crisis in the church series.

With this episode, we're starting our study of the period after the Second Vatican Council.

Over the next 20 or so episodes, we'll be diving into topics like the Novosorto Mass,

religious liberty, collegiality, the hermeneutic of continuity, pheneism, obedience in its limits,

set of ecantism, ecumenism, infallibility,

the new canonizations, supplied jurisdiction, and much more. But today, we'll start with the

reforms that started to take place just after the Second Vatican Council. Father John Mark

McFarland will take us through the immediate aftermath of the Council and show us how the Council

and the spirit

of Vatican 2 meant an immediate overhaul and a deformation of everything in the church.

If you'd like to learn more about this series we're doing on the crisis in the church, or go back

and revisit our previous 21 episodes, or if you want to support this project, please visit

sspbxpodcast.com slash crisis. Now we'll turn to our conversation with Father McFarland.

Welcome back to the SSPX podcast in our next episode of the crisis in the church series,

welcoming Father McFarlane from Our Lady of Sorrows in Phoenix.

Hello, Father. How are you today?

Good, very good. And we are talking today about post-concilior reforms, things that

happen after the council. You and are talking just a second ago before we started this.

And I asked you, is it true, is it fair to say that the majority of the things that Catholics,

that we Catholics see as problematic elements in the post-concilior church, these didn't

really happen during the council.

They might have happened because of the council, but most of the innovations and changes

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