You're listening to the SSPX podcast, and welcome to episode 19 of the Crisis in the Church series.

Today, we're going to dive into the Second Vatican Council itself with Father William McGilvery.

This is the first of three episodes on the council. After having reviewed the preparation for the

council in our last two episodes, today we will see what happened during the first session in the first year and a half or so of the council. We'll see how the neo-modernists came to the council absolutely prepared and in effect caused the first session to end with nothing accomplished and how a group of council fathers, the Rhine group, would go back home after the first session and prepare

to reshape the course of the rest of the council. If you'd like to learn more about this series

we're doing on the Crisis in the Church, or go back and revisit our previous 18 episodes,

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Now we'll turn to our conversation with Father McGilvery.

Welcome back to the SSPX podcast and the crisis in the church series and we are welcome for

the first time with by Father William McGilvery. Hello, Father, how are you? Very well. Thank you,

Andrew. How are you? Very good. thank you, Andrew. How are you?

Very good, thank you. And for those of our listeners who are not familiar with you or who you are,

would you mind introducing yourself a little bit? Tell everyone a little bit about who you are.

Sure. So my name is Father William MacGillivray. I grew up in Phoenix, Arizona, was raised in a Novice Ordo family, but we found tradition

when I was about 10 years old.

I went to a few different traditional schools.

I went to Our Lady of Sorrows Academy in Phoenix for just two years.

That was for junior high.

And then I did go for just a brief period of time to La Selet, but I actually ended

up finishing my high school at Veritas Preparatory Academy, which is a local charter school in Phoenix,

Arizona. Immediately after high school, I went to the seminary, and I studied for seven years,

first in Winona, Minnesota, and then afterwards in Dilwyn, Virginia. One of those years

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