Criminal Psychologist Talks to Man Charged w/ Kidnapping & Murdering Michael Vaughan | Stacey Wondra

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🗓️ 15 November 2025

⏱️ 119 minutes

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In January of 2024, at the request of 3rd parties, Dr. John interviewed Stacey Wondra, who at the time, was a suspect in the case of missing 5-year-old Michael "Monkey" Vaughan. Just a couple of weeks ago, Stacey was charged with kidnapping and murdering Michael. And now, Hidden True Crime is publicly releasing the interview between John and Stacey. Make the switch to Sundays. Go right now to http://sundaysfordogs.com/HIDDEN and get 50% off your first order. Or, you can use code HIDDEN at checkout. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code HIDDEN at https://www.oneskin.co/HIDDEN #oneskinpod About Hidden True Crime What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I would literally probably, I won't say kill, but I would allegedly hurt somebody really bad if I ever found out they did something like that to a little boy and I knew about it.
0:12.3	On January 26th, 2024, Hidden True Crimes, Dr. John Matthias, a clinical and criminal psychologist, interviewed Stacey Wondra, the man
0:22.9	now charged with kidnapping and murdering 5-year-old Michael Vaughn, also known as Monkey Vaughn.
0:30.5	Dr. John conducted the interview at the request of unnamed parties. We hoped that with
0:35.9	John's expertise, some information could be gleaned.
0:39.5	The day after Dr. John interviewed Stacey, I interviewed him as well. That was live on our YouTube
0:45.1	channel. But Dr. John's interview was only seen by a very small audience within our Patreon
0:51.7	community. For reasons, we kept it more private, until now.
0:56.7	Now that charges have come down, we feel comfortable finally sharing that full unedited interview
1:02.9	with you. This is Stacey Wonder in January of 2024, claiming his innocence while telling
1:09.2	John details about his life and upbringing.
1:12.4	John then zeroes in on the timeline of July 27, 2021,
1:17.0	the night that Michael went missing from his Fruitland, Idaho neighborhood.
1:22.0	Take a listen.
1:23.6	And live.
1:24.1	Let's do it.
1:25.1	And live.
1:25.7	Yep, we're live.
1:26.5	So, so, hey, everyone.
1:29.3	I'm here with John and Stacy Wondra.
1:32.3	We're live right now.
1:34.3	You know, so we're going live with Stacy.
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