Crime Conversations brings together the biggest names in true crime,

recorded live at CrimeCon London, 2025, partnered by the True Crime Channel.

This is a recording of Born Bad, a live show performed by myself, Mike, of Murder Mile,

and Adam from UK True Crime, minus our colleague Paul, who was unavoidably late.

Enjoy the show.

Good morning Crime Con community and welcome to day two of our amazing lineup of discussions, deep dives and discoveries into the world of true crime.

We're starting as we mean to go on today. With victims at the forefront, hard conversations being had,

and tough questions being asked.

And none may be more interesting than this.

Our killer is born bad.

Is it nature, nurture, society, sugar,

or a result of parenting?

Murder Mile, true crime enthusiast, and UK true crime come together to explore some of the youngest killers,

asking whether it's possible to be born bad by investigating those who are surely too young to be corrupted.

Please welcome to the stage, Michael Buchanan Dunn, Paul Sutherland's and Adam Lloyd for Born Bad.

Okay, good morning everyone and thank you so much for coming.

There's another similar show going on with academics that really know their stuff.

But in this room, we're happy amateurs, Mike, aren't we?

Just assholes. Just some bald

asshole. And the rum is about me, Mike, doing what they called? Right said Fred.

Right said Fred tribute act are unfounded, okay?

I'm too sexy, all my love. Okay, so those who don't know me, my name is Adam Lloyd.

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