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Fancy submitting to medieval justice, not immediately appealing, is it? Though I don't want to shame anyone.

What you do in your furline dungeon is nobody's business but your own.

But perhaps the violent imagery of crime and punishment

between the 5th and 15th centuries, those pillories, those scolds bridles,

those iron maidens, obscures pre-modern approaches to justice,

from which something might be learned.

Particularly at a historical moment when there's such a strong consensus that whatever's

happening now in the criminal justice system, it isn't working very well.

Is that fair guests? Show of hands? Is that a proper consensus?

I'm getting nods.

Let me introduce you to our jurors. Stephanie Brown is one of our new generation thinkers, academics in residence here on BBC Radio 4. She lectures in criminology at the University of Hull. Scout Sophia Bolton is a poet and broadcaster and knows the inside of HMP style, and they're the author

of the poetry collection, The Mad Art of Doing Time. Joanna Hardy Suskind is a criminal

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