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Without our members, there is no podcast, not to mention that I'm out of a job. Thank you so much for listening and supporting us. We couldn't do it without you. Oh, Hi, this is Josh Marshall, and this is the Josh Marshall podcast with Kate Riga. We have a number of things we're going to talk about this week as usual. We have polls, we have trials, we have trials, we have some things that are kind of at this point they're almost like

comic relief which I think we're going to get to first the ongoing kind of

implosion of Christine Nome the governor of South Dakota who by a lot of measures she seemed like the most, you know, she seemed to fit all of the you know check all the boxes for

Donald Trump in picking a vice presidential nominee you know she I mean first of

all governor of a state not a state you really care about in the sense of bringing states along, although that's not really much of a thing anymore. I think it's been a long time since we've really thought that that was kind of anything, in some ways, the last time,

the last time that got, I think, serious consideration was back in 1992 when Bill Clinton picked Al Gore and

Democrats were still at still in those days thinking they were going to

peel back the states that they had lost in the aftermath of the civil rights movement.

You know, Democrats, you know, you got to get a southern Democrat that was part of Bill Clinton's selling point, governor of Arkansas, and you get

Al Gore, a senator from Tennessee, and you're going to kind of bring back in some of those

border states or something like that. Now obviously we're in a different

era now where you see some southern states, very different versions of some southern

states coming back into view as swing states.

Georgia is the obvious one, Arizona, even though it's not, you know, geographically

south, it's not southern in the sense of being part of the old confederacy.

So, you know, being governor of a state isn't that much.

But you know, I did, I did a post about this yesterday and first of all, she's got the culture war thing, you know, kind of up for kicking any

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