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Credit rating downgrade triggers warning signs for U.S. economy

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2025

⏱️ 5 minutes

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The growing size of the U.S. debt, and the concerns over how much more it will increase, is very much on the minds of investors, markets and lawmakers. The developments were tied in part to Moody’s announcement that it was downgrading the U.S. credit rating over concerns about large annual deficits, debt and rising interest costs. Amna Nawaz discussed more with David Wessel. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

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0:00.0

The growing size of the U.S. debt and the concerns over how much more it will increase was very much on the minds of investors, markets, and lawmakers today.

0:10.0

Stocks bounced back, but only after a rocky start to the day. Meanwhile, the value of the dollar dropped and bond markets were under pressure.

0:18.0

Analyst said the developments were tied in part to Moody's announcement on

0:21.5

Friday that it was downgrading the U.S. credit rating over concerns about large annual deficits,

0:27.2

debt, and rising interest costs. For some explanation and perspective on what's happening here,

0:32.1

I'm joined now by David Wessel, director of Hutchins Center on Fiscal and Monetary Policy

0:37.3

at the Brookings Institution.

0:39.2

David, great to see you. Let's start with the impact of that Moody's decision on Friday to

0:43.4

downgrade the U.S. credit rating. Seems like stock investors today seem to shrug it off,

0:48.6

but explain what we're seeing with the dollar and in the bond markets.

0:52.4

Well, listen, what Moody's did was shine a flash leg on something that any

0:57.7

sophisticated investor and even some unsophisticated investors knew that the U.S. is on an unsustainable

1:04.7

budget trajectory. After all, Moody's is one of three rating agencies and the other two have

1:10.2

previously, one as long as 2011, stripped the other two have previously won as long as

1:12.0

2011, stripped the U.S. of the AAA rating. I think what's happening is that after sort of being

1:19.6

ignored for a while, the markets, some of the press, the pundits, and a few members of Congress

1:26.3

are beginning to say, wow, we have a pretty big budget

1:30.0

deficit. We have a large and growing federal debt. And Congress is on the verge of making it

1:36.4

even worse. And I think that's what the markets are focusing on. How much of what we're seeing

1:41.2

right now in terms of warning signs has to do with that pending

1:44.5

tax bill in Congress and also just the ongoing uncertainty around Harris?

1:48.8

I think quite a bit. So, you know, despite all the rhetoric one hears from Congress about,

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