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Welcome to the Scientific American podcast, Science Talk, posted on December 25, 2012. I'm Steve Merski. On this episode,

the ability to rationalize our dishonesty away is incredibly human. And we need to think about

how to fight this. That's Dan Ariely. He's professor of behavioral economics at Duke University.

His most recent book is The Honest Truth About Dishonesty,

How We Lie to Everyone, Especially Ourselves.

In the last issue of Scientific American Mind magazine,

staff editor Ingrid Wicklegrin published a Q&A with Ariely called Unvailing the Real Evil Genius.

You can find that article online at our website. It's excerpted from a long

phone interview that Wickelgren did with Ariely. After listening to the entire interview, we decided

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