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Thanks For Asking

Creativity is For Everyone (The Artist’s Way with Elizabeth Kott)

Thanks For Asking

Feelings & Co.

Mental Health, Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Health & Fitness

4.713.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2026

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Burnout seems like the biggest thing all of us have in common right now. It’s hard NOT to get burnt out when the world is rife with injustice and horror and you’re expected to carry on as normal. Here’s the thing: you don’t have to carry on as normal. But you do have to reach out and find joy – it’s going to keep you alive. It’s going to keep you going. It’s going to remind you that you won’t always feel like this. On today’s episode, Nora talks to Elizabeth Kott, who inspired her to pick up The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron and “get unstuck.” Elizabeth is a founder of Club Artist’s Way, where she leads people through a 13-week program to rekindle their creative spark, and host of the Too Niche podcast, where Nora first heard about The Artist’s Way. If you’re burnt out, stuck, and desperately searching for a way to claw your way out of the dark, this episode is for you. Read my original Substack about my experience with The Artist’s Way here. Follow Club Artist’s Way on Instagram and Substack Join Elizabeth’s next Artist’s Way Group here (code NORA50 gets you $50 off!). Listen to the Too Niche podcast here. My Brick code is NORA, and should auto-apply 10% off with this link.  Get a used copy of The Artist’s Way from your thrift store, or here. You can get a new copy on Bookshop or Amazon.  Watch us on YouTube here! Get this episode ad-free here! Listen to Geoffrey’s album on Spotify and Apple! You can buy Nora’s books on Bookshop or Amazon, or wherever you buy books. Check out Nora’s Instagram here! Check out Nora’s TikTok here! Check out Nora’s Facebook here! Check out Nora’s LinkedIn here! Our Sponsors: ❤️ Refresh your everyday with luxury you'll actually use. Head to ⁠Quince.com/TFA⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. Go to ⁠Quince.com/TFA⁠ for free shipping and 365-day returns. ⁠⁠Quince.com/TFA⁠⁠ ❤️ ⁠Shop Everyday Cotton, and all of my favorite bras and underwear, at SKIMS.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select our show in the dropdown menu that follows.⁠ ❤️ Experience your juiciest and deepest sensual experience with a bottle of Foria. FORIA is offering a special deal for our listeners. Get 20% off your first order by visiting ⁠foriawellness.com/tfa⁠ OR use code TFA at checkout. That’s F-O-R-I-A WELLNESS DOT COM FORWARD SLASH TFA for 20% off your first order. I recommend trying Awaken or their Pleasure Set with all three of their best sellers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey. Hi. Hi, how are you there?

0:59.0

Hi.

1:00.4

Hey, Nora.

1:03.7

I'm Nora McInerney, and this is thanks for asking, a call-in show about what matters to you.

1:20.2

If you're burned out or stuck right now, welcome to the club.

1:27.2

I feel like everyone is emotionally and creatively congested, probably by the smog of horror and anxiety and injustice that is hovering

1:30.6

over us at all times. The world feels heavy. We feel heavy. And even if it feels frivolous or

1:38.0

unimportant or unsurious, it is actually essential and quite serious that we connect with joy and creativity and each other.

1:47.9

We don't get unstuck by staying put.

1:51.1

We get unstuck by pushing ourselves forward.

1:53.6

I tell myself after the kind of morning where I call my best friend Caroline Moss and say,

1:58.7

Are you sure I'm not a loser who doesn't know what she's doing?

2:02.7

We didn't always feel like this, and we won't always feel like this, and today's episode is about

2:09.2

how we can get unstuck the artist's way.

2:14.6

In 1992, when I was a kid churning out pages and pages of fan fiction about my grandmother's

2:21.0

cats, poems about homework and my dead grandpa, and songs about my older brother, not loving me,

2:27.8

Julia Cameron published The Artist's Way. This is a book that details a 12-week program that helps people

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