Creative Chaos: Inside the CIA's Covert War to Topple the Syrian Government, the New Book by William Van Wagenen.
William Ramsey Investigates
William Ramsey Investigates
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🗓️ 13 August 2025
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Amazon Link:
https://www.amazon.com/Creative-Chaos-Inside-Covert-Government/dp/B0FLKPF8K1/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2CPIQC52TF5ZX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NRVmGR0AT4VRjhSbmeym9JWSuKIr0zdvTifB_qQkpYzCuMo6GTunOOS0XydtrJZ2wq4KZhFzuvRHFVFuKlhrPj-7scgxoqeYRhB_ZFvIpEbsNnAoNck2qbSe1RrrTGs-rJcllLinrSDkVR5Qgmm-qqFbgz9c_J3AghukSz-oCp272PfpNnWJV5LM73SHfdivKEcpiA7Y-GckyuFePht2ZB2bSrAoQZNLm9fu1aWsehM.m63Rcxz_wj88I0_Ssj0w62Ha13cVUw9EUxuizcEVHjc&dib_tag=se&keywords=creative+chaos&qid=1755099051&sprefix=creative+chaos%2Caps%2C190&sr=8-1
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| 0:00.0 | Okay, we are live. |
| 0:03.7 | Hi, this is William Ramsey. |
| 0:04.8 | Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show. |
| 0:07.6 | I have a very special guest. |
| 0:08.7 | He comes to us all the way from Lebanon. |
| 0:10.9 | His name is William Van Wagonin. |
| 0:13.7 | Last name is spelled BAN, W-A-G-E-N-E-N. |
| 0:17.7 | He's just published a book in August. |
| 0:19.8 | Full title of the book is Creative Chaos Inside |
| 0:23.5 | the CIA's Covert War to topple the Syrian government, which basically just happened in |
| 0:28.9 | December, 24. So fairly recently, so much is going on in the Middle East, and he's right there. |
| 0:34.9 | I read through the book. There's a lot of information that I knew, a lot I didn't know. |
| 0:39.8 | But he also writes for the Libertarian Institute. |
| 0:43.5 | I will pull up that website here in just a minute. |
| 0:47.2 | But he also works with Scott Horton, who I've listened to so many times. |
| 0:51.5 | I can't believe it, but Scott Horton's probably done 6,000 interviews. |
| 0:54.9 | Incredible amount of work. |
| 0:56.8 | But he just published a book Provoked about Ukraine. |
| 1:00.2 | He's kind of doing the rounds as well. |
| 1:02.9 | But as I said, this book, there's a lot of acronyms. |
| 1:06.2 | There's a lot of confusing names. |
| 1:08.1 | So we'll try to make those things clear. |
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