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Darren Davis, man, excited to have you out with us on the show today. Hello, Josh. Thanks for having me. Looking forward to it. We've got so much to talk about. I feel like we always do, especially with the amount of experience that you have in the multifamily industry, in new development. And then it sounds like a ton of other things. We'll even talk about a couple of blue marlins today, won't we, right?

So before. the multi-family industry in new development and then it sounds like a ton of other things we've been talking about a couple of a couple of blue marlins today won't we right so before we know if you can produce a blue marlin we're name you name your price okay before we're doing

all that again everyone out there listening to this for the first time or the first time I'm ever hearing about you a brief background about yourself. And then tell us at the end of the day, what ultimately got you interested in real estate in the first place. Yeah, I'll make it pretty brief, but probably like most, you know, I started off a very middle class, grew up in the North Texas

area, in the DFW area, one school at University of Oklahoma. But after I graduated, I, you know,

I had a business degree. So I just kind of went into sales and marketing. And that's what I did

for 15 years. And I mean, I was good at it. I consistently got promoted. but I got to a point in my life where I realized I didn't have

control.

And I was, you know, I was making great money, top sales, high achiever.

And I said, wait a second, I'm smart enough to know now that I can do this for myself.

And I literally, and maybe like most people, I literally had this epiphany.

And I said, I've got to do something different.

And I didn't know what it was.

But I knew I had to do something different.

And sure enough, I'm listening to a radio program in San Francisco.

And on comes this guy that sold millions of purple books.

I've never heard about this guy ever.

Robert Kiyosaki, this is like I said, eight or 99.

And I was mesmerized by the thought that he was putting out on the airways at the time. Now, this is back when you couldn't go home and get on the internet and, you know, do a quick little research. You had to, you had to dig to get books on tape, you know, so I literally picked that up. And, and my girlfriend at the time, which became my wife, we just said, you know what? We, we're going to,

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