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and learn how you too can become financially free.

If you ask me when it comes to freedom,

I think financial freedom is really the new freedom.

It's not accessible to everybody and we have to protect the accessibility

of financial freedom and financial security for everyone.

I do believe that ownership, home ownership is a big part of that freedom.

I think we have to protect how do we allow the entry cost for middle class families

to be able to own.

That's the most important element of affordable housing.

What's going on, everybody?

This is Josh Ferrari hosts of the Creative Capital Podcast,

bringing you a very interesting episode today.

You may have read the title of today's episode.

You may have thought curious where this is headed.

Even though you might know, you might think that you know where this is headed.

You have no idea where it's headed because I had no idea where it was headed.

I read his entire bio and prepped for this interview.

His area of expertise, the thing that they focus on,

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