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Creative Capital Podcast 184: Recession? Nah... OPPORTUNITY

Creative Capital

Josh Ferrari

Investing, Business

51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2022

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Creativity is about to re-enter the the market. Rising cap rates brings more opportunity on the buy side. Holding long term is going to be the new way to buy B and C class assets.

Tune in for more reasons why now is the PERFECT time to get into this business!

Transcript

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0:00.0

What's up, everybody. Welcome back to this week's segment of the no limit minute. Man, I'm excited

0:10.0

about today because it's something that has been continuously on my mind and is something that

0:16.0

I feel like is probably on everyone else's mind as well. And that's this whole conversation

0:22.0

about a potential recession, right? Is there going to be a recession? What the heck is going on with the market?

0:26.0

What should we do? Where are things headed? Should I keep buying? And here's what we know. We're not going

0:32.0

to go super in depth, but I'm going to tell you what I know and what we're utilizing to continue to make offers

0:38.0

and grow. Now more than ever, specifically over the last five to 10 years, there hasn't been a whole lot of

0:48.0

creativity in the market. Maybe 10 years ago there was, but the last five, three, two, one year ago,

0:54.0

a little to no creativity because everything was best and final, best and final, best and final, you know,

1:00.0

highest and best. And they wanted to make sure that you were going to pay $20 million over asking, right?

1:06.0

Like it was insane. The cap rates extremely compressed. And the thing about the cap rates is they were

1:12.0

compressed. The interesting thing about them, they were compressed over the course of three different

1:18.0

asset classes. So two, three years ago, you could have gone in and you could have bought a B class asset

1:24.0

on average, about a six cap. And you could have bought a C class asset on average of about an eight cap.

1:32.0

And meanwhile, the A class asset is probably around three to four cap, depending on the market, the trend. That was pretty

1:38.0

standard for a while on cap rates in general and market trends with multifamily.

1:46.0

Over the last couple of years, what we saw is a massive compression over the course of all three asset classes.

1:52.0

So we saw A class, B class, and C class all becoming a four cap.

2:00.0

Didn't matter what market you're in. I mean, literally everywhere you went, competition and sane, we're looking at about a four cap regardless of the asset you buy.

2:07.0

So most people thinking, why would I buy an older asset at a four cap, I'm finding out like a brand new asset at the same cap rate.

2:12.0

It was very interesting. And of course, all those in the B and C class assets doing massive deep value ads.

2:18.0

They were the ones seeing the majority of the success of the last couple of years, doubling, tripling, even quadrupling their money in the course of just a couple of years.

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