We're back. That's right. This is the pod directive with Paul Tompkins and Tawny Newsom. That's who we are.

Except no substitutes. I'm Paula Tompkins. That is Tauny Newsom. As she said, we're back. We're just going to reiterate everything we've said thus far.

Because if you weren't listening when you first started the podcast,

maybe a pot boiled over on the stove and you had to run away.

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We said it a second time, so you had a second chance.

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Welcome back to Star Trek the pod directive.

We are here once again to share with you a wonderful conversation we had with a special guest.

This week, it is Talia Lavin, who is an author who has written a book about, well, some unpleasant

people.

Yes, her book, which was just released in October of last year, is called Culture Warlords,

My Journey Into the Dark Web of

of White Supremacy.

And we're going to get into talking with her about the writing of that book and the intense

stuff she had to do to get the information for it.

But something else cool about Talia is that in the pandemic, she started watching the next

generation in Deep Space Nine for the first time.

So, you know, we interview a lot of different types of fans on this show.

Some people who've been fans their whole life or dating all the way back to the original series.

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