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Good morning. This is Laura.

Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast.

Today's episode is going to be a longer one, part of the series where I

interview fascinating people about how they take their days from great to awesome and any

advice they have for the rest of us. So today I'm delighted to welcome Charles Duhigg back to

Before Breakfast. Charles is the author of several best-selling books, including The Power of Habit and Super Communicators,

which is newly out in paperback. So Charles, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me.

Yeah, really excited to have you back. So if we have any new listeners who've joined us in the last

year or so, maybe you could tell everybody just a little bit about yourself. Absolutely. I'm an author. I wrote the book, The Power of Habit, and also my most recent book

is Super Communicators. And I'm a writer at the New Yorker magazine, previously with The New York Times,

where I write about business and investigations and tech for the most part in AI.

Absolutely. So I know you have written about a ton of different topics, but I thought in our time here today,

we could focus a little bit on your most recent book with communication, and in particular,

how better communication can save us time, because that is a big thing for people who listen to this show.

So first, what tends to go wrong with communication that winds up being a major time suck?

Yeah, absolutely.

It's a great question because oftentimes when we're in a conversation and we want to actually

communicate with the other person and miscommunication is happening,

which means they can't understand us.

We can't understand them.

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